From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
jglisse@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de, aarcange@redhat.com,
riel@redhat.com, airlied@redhat.com,
aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Cameron Buschardt <cabuschardt@nvidia.com>,
Mark Hairgrove <mhairgrove@nvidia.com>,
Geoffrey Gerfin <ggerfin@nvidia.com>,
John McKenna <jmckenna@nvidia.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Interacting with coherent memory on external devices
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:51:51 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1504271148240.29735@gentwo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150427164325.GB26980@gmail.com>
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > Well lets avoid that. Access to device memory comparable to what the
> > drivers do today by establishing page table mappings or a generalization
> > of DAX approaches would be the most straightforward way of implementing it
> > and would build based on existing functionality. Page migration currently
> > does not work with driver mappings or DAX because there is no struct page
> > that would allow the lockdown of the page. That may require either
> > continued work on the DAX with page structs approach or new developments
> > in the page migration logic comparable to the get_user_page() alternative
> > of simply creating a scatter gather table to just submit a couple of
> > memory ranges to the I/O subsystem thereby avoiding page structs.
>
> What you refuse to see is that DAX is geared toward filesystem and as such
> rely on special mapping. There is a reason why dax.c is in fs/ and not mm/
> and i keep pointing out we do not want our mecanism to be perceive as fs
> from userspace point of view. We want to be below the fs, at the mm level
> where we could really do thing transparently no matter what kind of memory
> we are talking about (anonymous, file mapped, share).
Ok that is why I mentioned the device memory mappings that are currently
used for this purpose. You could generalize the DAX approach (which I
understand as providing rw mappings to memory outside of the memory
managed by the kernel and not as a fs specific thing).
We can drop the DAX name and just talk about mapping to external memory if
that confuses the issue.
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Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-21 21:44 Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 23:46 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 0:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 12:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 23:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 0:05 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 0:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 13:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 13:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 16:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 17:07 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 18:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-23 14:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 19:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:53 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23 2:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 15:42 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 14:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 22:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 2:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 15:25 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-23 19:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:09 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-25 11:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 22:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-24 14:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:04 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-22 0:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 0:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 1:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-22 15:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 16:31 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-22 17:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-22 19:07 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-23 2:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:11 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 14:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 15:08 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 16:43 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 17:19 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 19:29 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 20:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 20:32 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-25 11:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 15:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 15:47 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 16:29 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-27 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-13 14:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-13 23:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-14 7:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-14 7:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-05-28 18:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 16:43 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:51 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2015-04-27 17:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 19:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-27 19:35 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-27 20:52 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-28 14:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-28 17:20 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-27 16:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-27 16:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 23:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 14:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 14:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 15:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-24 16:06 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-25 11:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-24 16:00 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 16:08 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23 17:28 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-23 2:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-23 14:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-23 16:22 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-04-24 18:41 ` Oded Gabbay
2015-04-23 19:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-22 15:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-04-25 2:32 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-25 3:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-25 11:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
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