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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] mm, compaction: kcompactd should not ignore pageblock skip
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 18:07:25 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1709101801200.85650@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d578461-0982-f719-3a04-b2f3552dc7cc@suse.cz>

On Wed, 23 Aug 2017, Vlastimil Babka wrote:

> On 08/16/2017 01:39 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> > Kcompactd is needlessly ignoring pageblock skip information.  It is doing
> > MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT compaction, which is no more powerful than
> > MIGRATE_SYNC compaction.
> > 
> > If compaction recently failed to isolate memory from a set of pageblocks,
> > there is nothing to indicate that kcompactd will be able to do so, or
> > that it is beneficial from attempting to isolate memory.
> > 
> > Use the pageblock skip hint to avoid rescanning pageblocks needlessly
> > until that information is reset.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> 
> It would be much better if patches like this were accompanied by some
> numbers.
> 

The numbers were from https://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=150231232707999 
where very large amounts (>90% of system RAM) were hugetlb pages.  We can 
supplement this changelog with the following if it helps:

"""
Currently, kcompactd ignores pageblock skip information that can become 
useful if it is known that memory should not be considered by both the 
migration and freeing scanners.  Abundant hugetlb memory is a good example 
of memory that is needlessly (and expensively) scanned since the hugepage 
order normally matches the pageblock order.

For example, on a sysctl with very large amounts of memory reserved by the 
hugetlb subsystem:

compact_migrate_scanned 2931254031294 
compact_free_scanned    102707804816705 
compact_isolated        1309145254 

Kcompactd ends up successfully isolating ~0.0012% of memory that is 
scans (the above does not involve direct compaction).

A follow-up change will set the pageblock skip for this memory since it is 
never useful for either scanner.
"""

> Also there's now a danger that in cases where there's no direct
> compaction happening (just kcompactd), nothing will ever call
> __reset_isolation_suitable().
> 

I'm not sure that is helpful in a context where no high-order memory can 
call direct compaction that kcompactd needlessly scanning the same memory 
over and over is beneficial.

> > ---
> >  mm/compaction.c | 3 +--
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
> > --- a/mm/compaction.c
> > +++ b/mm/compaction.c
> > @@ -1927,9 +1927,8 @@ static void kcompactd_do_work(pg_data_t *pgdat)
> >  		.total_free_scanned = 0,
> >  		.classzone_idx = pgdat->kcompactd_classzone_idx,
> >  		.mode = MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT,
> > -		.ignore_skip_hint = true,
> > +		.ignore_skip_hint = false,
> >  		.gfp_mask = GFP_KERNEL,
> > -
> >  	};
> >  	trace_mm_compaction_kcompactd_wake(pgdat->node_id, cc.order,
> >  							cc.classzone_idx);
> > 
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-11  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-15 23:39 David Rientjes
2017-08-15 23:39 ` [patch 2/2] mm, compaction: persistently skip hugetlbfs pageblocks David Rientjes
2017-08-18  8:49   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-21  0:36     ` [patch -mm] mm, compaction: persistently skip hugetlbfs pageblocks fix David Rientjes
2017-08-21  6:37       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-23  8:41   ` [patch 2/2] mm, compaction: persistently skip hugetlbfs pageblocks Vlastimil Babka
2017-09-01 12:32     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-09-11  1:13       ` David Rientjes
2017-09-11  1:12     ` David Rientjes
2017-09-11  6:50       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-09-11 21:11         ` David Rientjes
2017-08-23  8:23 ` [patch 1/2] mm, compaction: kcompactd should not ignore pageblock skip Vlastimil Babka
2017-09-11  1:07   ` David Rientjes [this message]
2017-09-11  6:34     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-09-11 21:13       ` David Rientjes

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