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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: mhocko@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memory is freed
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:37:45 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1706151430280.95906@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201706152201.CAB48456.FtHOJMFOVLSFQO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Tetsuo Handa wrote:

> David is trying to avoid setting MMF_OOM_SKIP when the OOM reaper found that
> mm->users == 0.

Yes, because MMF_OOM_SKIP enables the oom killer to select another process 
to kill and will do so without the original victim's mm being able to 
undergo exit_mmap().  So now we kill two or more processes when one would 
have sufficied; I have seen up to four processes killed unnecessarily 
without this patch.

> But we must not wait forever because __mmput() might fail to
> release some memory immediately. If __mmput() did not release some memory within
> schedule_timeout_idle(HZ/10) * MAX_OOM_REAP_RETRIES sleep, let the OOM killer
> invoke again. So, this is the case we want to address here, isn't it?
> 

It is obviously a function of the number of threads that share the mm with 
the oom victim to determine how long would be a sensible amount of time to 
wait for __mmput() to even get a chance to be called, along with 
potentially allowing a non-zero number of those threads to allocate from 
memory reserves to allow them to eventually drop mm->mmap_sem to make 
forward progress.

I have not witnessed any thread stalling in __mmput() that prevents the 
mm's memory to be freed.  I have witnessed several processes oom killed 
unnecessarily for a single oom condition where before MMF_OOM_SKIP was 
introduced, a single oom kill would have sufficed.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-15 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-14 23:43 David Rientjes
2017-06-15 10:39 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 10:53   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 11:01     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 11:32       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 12:03         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 12:13           ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 13:01             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 13:22               ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 21:43                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-15 21:37               ` David Rientjes [this message]
2017-06-15 12:20       ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 21:26   ` David Rientjes
2017-06-15 21:41     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 22:03       ` David Rientjes
2017-06-15 22:12         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 22:42           ` David Rientjes
2017-06-16  8:06             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16  0:54           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16  4:00             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16  8:39             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 10:27               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 11:02                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 14:26                   ` Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memoryis freed Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 14:42                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-17 13:30                       ` Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent additional oom kills before memory is freed Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-23 12:38                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-16 12:22       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-16 14:12         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-17  5:17           ` [PATCH] mm,oom_kill: Close race window of needlessly selecting new victims Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-20 22:12             ` David Rientjes
2017-06-21  2:17               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-21 20:31                 ` David Rientjes
2017-06-22  0:53                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-23 12:45                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-21 13:18               ` Michal Hocko

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