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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, thp: always direct reclaim for MADV_HUGEPAGE even when deferred
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:33:49 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1612281332320.13632@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161228084823.GB11470@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:

> I do care more about _users_ and their _experience_ than what
> application _writers_ think is the best. This is the whole point
> of giving the defrag tunable. madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE) is just a hint to
> the system that using transparent hugepages is _preferable_, not
> mandatory. We have an option to allow stalls for those vmas to increase
> the allocation success rate. We also have tunable to completely ignore
> it. And we should also have an option to not stall.
> 

The application developer who uses madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE) is doing so for 
a reason.

We lack the ability to defragment in the background for all users who 
don't want to block while allowing madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE) users to block, 
as the changelog for this patch clearly indicates.

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-28 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-22  0:21 David Rientjes
2016-12-22  8:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-22 10:00 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 21:05   ` David Rientjes
2016-12-23  8:51     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 10:01       ` David Rientjes
2016-12-23 11:18         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 22:46           ` David Rientjes
2016-12-26  9:02             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27  0:53               ` David Rientjes
2016-12-27  2:32                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27  9:41                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 21:36                   ` David Rientjes
2016-12-28  8:48                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-28 21:33                       ` David Rientjes [this message]
2016-12-29  8:24                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 12:36     ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-30 12:56       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 14:08         ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-30 22:30       ` David Rientjes
2017-01-03 10:37         ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-03 21:57           ` David Rientjes
2017-01-04 10:12             ` Mel Gorman
2017-01-04 21:53               ` David Rientjes
2017-01-02  8:38 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-03 22:44   ` David Rientjes
2017-01-04  8:32     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-04  9:46       ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-04 22:04       ` David Rientjes

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