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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: mhocko@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@suse.de,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, oleg@redhat.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm] mm, oom: add global access to memory reserves on livelock
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:10:10 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1508241404380.32561@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201508212229.GIC00036.tVFMQLOOFJOFSH@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Fri, 21 Aug 2015, Tetsuo Handa wrote:

> Why can't we think about choosing more OOM victims instead of granting access
> to memory reserves?
> 

We have no indication of which thread is holding a mutex that would need 
to be killed, so we'd be randomly killing processes waiting for forward 
progress.  A worst-case scenario would be the thread is OOM_DISABLE and we 
kill every process on the system needlessly.  This problem obviously 
occurs often enough that killing all userspace isnt going to be a viable 
solution.

> Also, SysRq might not be usable under OOM because workqueues can get stuck.
> The panic_on_oom_timeout was first proposed using a workqueue but was
> updated to use a timer because there is no guarantee that workqueues work
> as expected under OOM.
> 

I don't know anything about a panic_on_oom_timeout, but panicking would 
only be a reasonable action if memory reserves were fully depleted.  That 
could easily be dealt with in the page allocator so there's no timeout 
involved.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-24 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-20 21:00 David Rientjes
2015-08-20 23:10 ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-21  8:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 13:29   ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-08-24 21:10     ` David Rientjes [this message]
2015-08-25 15:26       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-24 21:04   ` David Rientjes
2015-08-25 14:25     ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 23:41       ` David Rientjes
2015-08-26  7:01         ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-26 22:23           ` David Rientjes
2015-08-27 12:41             ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 20:52               ` David Rientjes

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