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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
Cc: "Jörn Engel" <joern@purestorage.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: hugetlb pages not accounted for in rss
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:15:17 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507281509420.23577@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B7F0F8.8080909@oracle.com>

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Mike Kravetz wrote:

> > > The easiest way to resolve this issue would be to remove the test and
> > > perhaps document that hugetlb pages are not accounted for in rss.
> > > However, it does seem like a big oversight that hugetlb pages are not
> > > accounted for in rss.  From a quick scan of the code it appears THP
> > > pages are properly accounted for.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > 
> > Unsurprisingly I agree that hugepages should count towards rss.  Keeping
> > the test in keeps us honest.  Actually fixing the issue would make us
> > honest and correct.
> > 
> > Increasingly we have tiny processes (by rss) that actually consume large
> > fractions of total memory.  Makes rss somewhat useless as a measure of
> > anything.
> 
> I'll take a look at what it would take to get the accounting in place.

I'm not sure that I would agree that accounting hugetlb pages in rss would 
always be appropriate.

For reserved hugetlb pages, not surplus, the hugetlb pages are always 
resident even when unmapped.  Unmapping the memory is not going to cause 
them to be freed.  That's different from thp where the hugepages are 
actually freed when you do munmap().

The oom killer looks at rss as the metric to determine which process to 
kill that will result in a large amount of memory freeing.  If hugetlb 
pages are accounted in rss, this may lead to unnecessary killing since 
little memory may be freed as a result.

For that reason, we've added hugetlb statistics to the oom killer output 
since we've been left wondering in the past where all the memory on the 
system went :)

We also have a separate hugetlb cgroup that tracks hugetlb memory usage 
rather than memcg.

Starting to account hugetlb pages in rss may lead to breakage in userspace 
and I would agree with your earlier suggestion that just removing any test 
for rss would be appropriate.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-28 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-27 23:26 Mike Kravetz
2015-07-28 18:32 ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-28 21:15   ` Mike Kravetz
2015-07-28 22:15     ` David Rientjes [this message]
2015-07-28 22:26       ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-28 23:30         ` David Rientjes
2015-07-29  0:53           ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-29 19:08             ` David Rientjes
2015-07-29 23:20               ` Mike Kravetz
2015-07-30 21:34                 ` Jörn Engel
2015-07-31 21:09                   ` David Rientjes
2015-08-04  2:55                 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-04  5:13                   ` [PATCH] smaps: fill missing fields for vma(VM_HUGETLB) Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-04 18:21                     ` Jörn Engel
2015-08-06  2:18                       ` David Rientjes
2015-08-06  7:44                         ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-07  7:24                           ` [PATCH v2 0/2] hugetlb: display per-process/per-vma usage Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-07  7:24                             ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: hugetlb: add VmHugetlbRSS: field in /proc/pid/status Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-07 22:55                               ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-10  0:47                                 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-10  0:47                                   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] smaps: fill missing fields for vma(VM_HUGETLB) Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-10  0:47                                   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt: document hugetlb RSS Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-11  0:44                                     ` David Rientjes
2015-08-12  0:03                                       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-12  7:45                                         ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: hugetlb: proc: add HugetlbPages field to /proc/PID/smaps Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-12  7:45                                           ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: hugetlb: proc: add HugetlbPages field to /proc/PID/status Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-12 20:30                                             ` David Rientjes
2015-08-13  0:45                                               ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-13 21:14                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2015-08-13 21:13                                               ` Jörn Engel
2015-08-17 21:28                                               ` David Rientjes
2015-08-12 20:25                                           ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: hugetlb: proc: add HugetlbPages field to /proc/PID/smaps David Rientjes
2015-08-13 21:14                                             ` Jörn Engel
2015-08-20  8:26                                         ` [PATCH v5 0/2] hugetlb: display per-process/per-vma usage Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-20  8:26                                           ` [PATCH v5 1/2] mm: hugetlb: proc: add HugetlbPages field to /proc/PID/smaps Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-20 10:49                                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 23:20                                               ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-21  6:33                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-07  1:29                                             ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-07  2:23                                               ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-09-07  6:46                                                 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-09-07  9:52                                                   ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-07 10:52                                                     ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-17  9:39                                                       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-09-09 15:12                                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-09-09 22:14                                               ` David Rientjes
2015-08-20  8:26                                           ` [PATCH v5 2/2] mm: hugetlb: proc: add HugetlbPages field to /proc/PID/status Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-20 11:00                                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 19:49                                               ` David Rientjes
2015-08-21  6:32                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 16:38                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2015-08-20 23:34                                               ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-21  6:53                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 16:30                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2015-08-24  8:51                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 23:23                                                       ` David Rientjes
2015-08-26  6:38                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-26 22:02                                                           ` David Rientjes
2015-08-27  6:48                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 17:23                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2015-08-27 20:44                                                                 ` David Rientjes
2015-08-31  9:12                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-09-16  0:21                                         ` [PATCH v1] mm: migrate: hugetlb: putback destination hugepage to active list Naoya Horiguchi
2015-09-16  2:53                                           ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-10  0:47                                   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] mm: hugetlb: add VmHugetlbRSS: field in /proc/pid/status Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-10  1:16                                     ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-07  7:24                             ` [PATCH v2 1/2] smaps: fill missing fields for vma(VM_HUGETLB) Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-07 22:50                               ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-11  0:37                               ` David Rientjes
2015-08-11 23:32                                 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2015-08-11 23:48                                   ` David Rientjes

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