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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Neil Zhang <neilzhang1123@hotmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: show free pages per each migrate type
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:50:07 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1504101944440.9879@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP78227860F3E4FAF236A85CBAFB0@phx.gbl>

On Thu, 9 Apr 2015, Neil Zhang wrote:

> show detailed free pages per each migrate type in show_free_areas.
> 
> After apply this patch, the log printed out will be changed from
> 
> [   558.212844@0] Normal: 218*4kB (UEMC) 207*8kB (UEMC) 126*16kB (UEMC) 21*32kB (UC) 5*64kB (C) 3*128kB (C) 1*256kB (C) 1*512kB (C) 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 1*4096kB (R) = 10784kB
> [   558.227840@0] HighMem: 3*4kB (UMR) 3*8kB (UMR) 2*16kB (UM) 3*32kB (UMR) 0*64kB 1*128kB (M) 1*256kB (R) 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 548kB
> 
> to
> 
> [   806.506450@1] Normal: 8969*4kB 4370*8kB 2*16kB 3*32kB 2*64kB 3*128kB 3*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 74804kB
> [   806.517456@1]       orders:      0      1      2      3      4      5      6      7      8      9     10
> [   806.527077@1]    Unmovable:   8287   4370      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.536699@1]  Reclaimable:    681      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.546321@1]      Movable:      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.555942@1]      Reserve:      0      0      2      3      2      3      3      1      0      1      0
> [   806.565564@1]          CMA:      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.575187@1]      Isolate:      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.584810@1] HighMem: 80*4kB 15*8kB 0*16kB 0*32kB 0*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 440kB
> [   806.595383@1]       orders:      0      1      2      3      4      5      6      7      8      9     10
> [   806.605004@1]    Unmovable:     12      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.614626@1]  Reclaimable:      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.624248@1]      Movable:     11     15      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.633869@1]      Reserve:     57      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.643491@1]          CMA:      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> [   806.653113@1]      Isolate:      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0
> 
> Signed-off-by: Neil Zhang <neilzhang1123@hotmail.com>

Sorry, this is just way too verbose.  This output is emitted to the kernel 
log on oom kill and since we lack a notification mechanism on system oom, 
the _only_ way for userspace to detect oom kills that have occurred is by 
scraping the kernel log.  This is exactly what we do, and we have missed 
oom kill events because they scroll from the ring buffer due to excessive 
output such as this, which is why output was limited with the 
show_free_areas() filter in the first place.  Just because oom kill output 
is much less than it has been in the past, for precisely this reason, 
doesn't mean we can make it excessive again.

So nack on this patch, and if we really need to have this information (I 
don't know your motivation for adding it since you list none in your 
changelog), then we need to consider an oom verbosity sysctl or, better, 
an actual system oom notification to userspace based on eventfd() without 
requiring memcg.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-11  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-09  2:19 Neil Zhang
2015-04-09 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-10  4:16   ` ZhangNeil
2015-04-10  4:24     ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-12  7:17       ` ZhangNeil
2015-04-12  7:25         ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-11  2:50 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2015-04-12  7:02   ` ZhangNeil
2015-04-12  7:08   ` ZhangNeil
2015-04-13 23:42     ` David Rientjes

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