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From: SeongJae Park <sj38.park@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: SeongJae Park <sj38.park@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, lauraa@codeaurora.org,
	minchan@kernel.org, sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 0/5] introduce gcma
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 01:47:06 +0900 (KST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1502260119210.23105@hxeon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150225161158.GI26680@dhcp22.suse.cz>



On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Michal Hocko wrote:

> On Wed 25-02-15 14:31:08, SeongJae Park wrote:
>> Hello Michal,
>>
>> Thanks for your comment :)
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue 24-02-15 04:54:18, SeongJae Park wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> include/linux/cma.h  |    4 +
>>>> include/linux/gcma.h |   64 +++
>>>> mm/Kconfig           |   24 +
>>>> mm/Makefile          |    1 +
>>>> mm/cma.c             |  113 ++++-
>>>> mm/gcma.c            | 1321 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 6 files changed, 1508 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
>>>> create mode 100644 include/linux/gcma.h
>>>> create mode 100644 mm/gcma.c
>>>
>>> Wow this is huge! And I do not see reason for it to be so big. Why
>>> cannot you simply define (per-cma area) 2-class users policy? Either via
>>> kernel command line or export areas to userspace and allow to set policy
>>> there.
>>
>> For implementation of the idea, we should develop not only policy selection,
>> but also backend for discardable memory. Most part of this patch were made
>> for the backend.
>
> What is the backend and why is it needed? I thought the discardable will
> go back to the CMA pool. I mean the cover email explained why the
> current CMA allocation policy might lead to lower success rate or
> stalls. So I would expect a new policy would be a relatively small
> change in the CMA allocation path to serve 2-class users as per policy.
> It is not clear to my why we need to pull a whole gcma layer in. I might
> be missing something obvious because I haven't looked at the patches yet
> but this should better be explained in the cover letter.

I meant backend for 2nd-class clients like cleancache and frontswap.
Because implementing backend for cleancache or frontswap is subsystem's
responsibility, gcma was needed to implement those backend. I believe
second ("gcma: utilize reserved memory as discardable memory") and
third ("gcma: adopt cleancache and frontswap as second-class
clients") could be helpful to understand about that.

And yes, I agree the explanation was not enough. My fault, sorry. My
explanation was too concentrated on policy itself. I should explained
about how the policy could be implemented and how gcma did. I will explain
about that in coverletter with next version.

Thanks for your helpful and nice comment.


Thanks,
SeongJae Park

>
> Thanks!
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
>

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      reply	other threads:[~2015-02-25 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-23 19:54 SeongJae Park
2015-02-23 19:54 ` [RFC v2 1/5] gcma: introduce contiguous memory allocator SeongJae Park
2015-02-23 19:54 ` [RFC v2 2/5] gcma: utilize reserved memory as discardable memory SeongJae Park
2015-02-23 19:54 ` [RFC v2 3/5] gcma: adopt cleancache and frontswap as second-class clients SeongJae Park
2015-02-23 19:54 ` [RFC v2 4/5] gcma: export statistical data on debugfs SeongJae Park
2015-02-23 19:54 ` [RFC v2 5/5] gcma: integrate gcma under cma interface SeongJae Park
2015-02-24 14:48 ` [RFC v2 0/5] introduce gcma Michal Hocko
2015-02-25  5:31   ` SeongJae Park
2015-02-25 16:11     ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-25 16:47       ` SeongJae Park [this message]

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