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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2 for-4.0] mm, thp: really limit transparent hugepage allocation to local node
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:24:28 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1502251311360.18097@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54EDA96C.4000609@suse.cz>

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:

> > Commit 077fcf116c8c ("mm/thp: allocate transparent hugepages on local
> > node") restructured alloc_hugepage_vma() with the intent of only
> > allocating transparent hugepages locally when there was not an effective
> > interleave mempolicy.
> > 
> > alloc_pages_exact_node() does not limit the allocation to the single
> > node, however, but rather prefers it.  This is because __GFP_THISNODE is
> > not set which would cause the node-local nodemask to be passed.  Without
> > it, only a nodemask that prefers the local node is passed.
> 
> Oops, good catch.
> But I believe we have the same problem with khugepaged_alloc_page(), rendering
> the recent node determination and zone_reclaim strictness patches partially
> useless.
> 

Indeed.

> Then I start to wonder about other alloc_pages_exact_node() users. Some do
> pass __GFP_THISNODE, others not - are they also mistaken? I guess the function
> is a misnomer - when I see "exact_node", I expect the __GFP_THISNODE behavior.
> 

I looked through these yesterday as well and could only find the 
do_migrate_pages() case for page migration where __GFP_THISNODE was 
missing.  I proposed that separately as 
http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=142481989722497 -- I couldn't find any 
other users that looked wrong.

 > I think to avoid such hidden catches, we should create
> alloc_pages_preferred_node() variant, change the exact_node() variant to pass
> __GFP_THISNODE, and audit and adjust all callers accordingly.
> 

Sounds like that should be done as part of a cleanup after the 4.0 issues 
are addressed.  alloc_pages_exact_node() does seem to suggest that we want 
exactly that node, implying __GFP_THISNODE behavior already, so it would 
be good to avoid having this come up again in the future.

> Also, you pass __GFP_NOWARN but that should be covered by GFP_TRANSHUGE
> already. Of course, nothing guarantees that hugepage == true implies that gfp
> == GFP_TRANSHUGE... but current in-tree callers conform to that.
> 

Ah, good point, and it includes __GFP_NORETRY as well which means that 
this patch is busted.  It won't try compaction or direct reclaim in the 
page allocator slowpath because of this:

	/*
	 * GFP_THISNODE (meaning __GFP_THISNODE, __GFP_NORETRY and
	 * __GFP_NOWARN set) should not cause reclaim since the subsystem
	 * (f.e. slab) using GFP_THISNODE may choose to trigger reclaim
	 * using a larger set of nodes after it has established that the
	 * allowed per node queues are empty and that nodes are
	 * over allocated.
	 */
	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_NUMA) &&
	    (gfp_mask & GFP_THISNODE) == GFP_THISNODE)
		goto nopage;

Hmm.  It would be disappointing to have to pass the nodemask of the exact 
node that we want to allocate from into the page allocator to avoid using 
__GFP_THISNODE.

There's a sneaky way around it by just removing __GFP_NORETRY from 
GFP_TRANSHUGE so the condition above fails and since the page allocator 
won't retry for such a high-order allocation, but that probably just 
papers over this stuff too much already.  I think what we want to do is 
cause the slab allocators to not use __GFP_WAIT if they want to avoid 
reclaim.

This is probably going to be a much more invasive patch than originally 
thought.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-25 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-24 22:24 [patch " David Rientjes
2015-02-24 23:24 ` [patch v2 " David Rientjes
2015-02-25 10:52   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-02-25 21:24     ` David Rientjes [this message]
2015-02-25 23:55       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-04-21  7:31         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-05  9:12           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-05 13:22             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V

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