From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Primiano Tucci <primiano@chromium.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Petr Cermak <petrcermak@chromium.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] task_mmu: Add user-space support for resetting mm->hiwater_rss (peak RSS)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:00:20 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1501261552440.29252@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+yH71e2ewvA41BNyb=TTPn+yx2zWzY6rn09hRVVgWKoeMgwXQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, Primiano Tucci wrote:
> > If you reset the hwm for a process, rss grows to 100MB, another process
> > resets the hwm, and you see a hwm of 2MB, that invalidates the hwm
> > entirely.
>
> Not sure I follow this scenario. Where does the 2MB come from?
It's a random number that the hwm gets reset to after the other process
clears it.
> How can
> you see a hwm of 2MB, under which conditions? HVM can never be < RSS.
> Again, what you are talking about is the case of two profilers racing
> for using the same interface (hwm).
> This is the same case today of the PG_referenced bit.
>
PG_referenced bit is not tracking the highest rss a process has ever
attained. PG_referenced is understood to be clearable at any time and the
only guarantee is that it was at least cleared before returning from the
write. It could be set again before the write returns as well, but we can
be sure that it was at least cleared.
With your approach, which completely invalidates the entire purpose of
hwm, the following is possible:
process A process B
--------- ---------
read hwm = 50MB read hwm = 50MB
write to clear hwm
rss goes to 100MB
write to clear hwm
rss goes to 2MB
read hwm = 2MB read hwm = 2MB
This is a result of allowing something external (process B) be able to
clear hwm so that you never knew the value went to 100MB. That's the
definition of a race, I don't know how to explain it any better and making
any connection between clearing PG_referenced and mm->hiwater_rss is a
stretch. This approach just makes mm->hiwater_rss meaningless.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-27 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-07 17:06 [PATCH v2 0/2] " Petr Cermak
2015-01-07 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] task_mmu: Reduce excessive indentation in clear_refs_write Petr Cermak
2015-01-07 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] task_mmu: Add user-space support for resetting mm->hiwater_rss (peak RSS) Petr Cermak
2015-01-07 17:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-14 15:22 ` Petr Cermak
2015-01-14 23:36 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-21 22:58 ` David Rientjes
2015-01-22 0:22 ` Primiano Tucci
2015-01-22 23:27 ` David Rientjes
2015-01-23 0:28 ` Primiano Tucci
2015-01-27 0:00 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2015-02-03 3:26 ` Petr Cermak
2015-02-03 15:51 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-03 20:16 ` David Rientjes
2015-01-14 23:39 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-15 16:46 ` Petr Cermak
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