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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] page_alloc: skip cpuset enforcement for lower zone allocations (v5)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 08:50:56 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1405300849190.8240@gentwo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1405291638300.9336@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Thu, 29 May 2014, David Rientjes wrote:

> When I said that my point about mempolicies needs more thought, I wasn't
> expecting that there would be no discussion -- at least _something_ that
> would say why we don't care about the mempolicy case.

Lets get Andi involved here too.

> The motivation here is identical for both cpusets and mempolicies.  What
> is the significant difference between attaching a process to a cpuset
> without access to lowmem and a process doing set_mempolicy(MPOL_BIND)
> without access to lowmem?  Is it because the process should know what it's
> doing if it asks for a mempolicy that doesn't include lowmem?  If so, is
> the cpusets case different because the cpuset attacher isn't held to the
> same standard?
>
> I'd argue that an application may never know if it needs to allocate
> GFP_DMA32 or not since its a property of the hardware that its running on
> and my driver may need to access lowmem while yours may not.  I may even
> configure CONFIG_ZONE_DMA=n and CONFIG_ZONE_DMA32=n because I know the
> _hardware_ requirements of my platforms.

Right. This is a hardware issue and the hardware is pretty messed up. And
now one wants to use NUMA features?

> If there is no difference, then why are we allowing the exception for
> cpusets and not mempolicies?
>
> I really think you want to allow both cpusets and mempolicies.  I'd like
> to hear Christoph's thoughts on it as well, though.

I said something elsewhere in the thread.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-30 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-23 19:37 [PATCH] page_alloc: skip cpuset enforcement for lower zone allocations Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-23 20:51 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-23 23:33   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-26 18:53 ` [PATCH] page_alloc: skip cpuset enforcement for lower zone allocations (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-28  7:02   ` Li Zefan
2014-05-28 22:43     ` [PATCH] page_alloc: skip cpuset enforcement for lower zone allocations (v3) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-28 23:45       ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-29 18:46         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-29 18:43       ` [PATCH] page_alloc: skip cpuset enforcement for lower zone allocations (v4) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-29 22:40         ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-29 23:01         ` David Rientjes
2014-05-29 23:12           ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-30 13:48             ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-30 21:43               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-29 23:28           ` [PATCH] page_alloc: skip cpuset enforcement for lower zone allocations (v5) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-29 23:54             ` David Rientjes
2014-05-30 13:12               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-30 13:50               ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2014-05-30 21:18                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-27 14:21 ` [PATCH] page_alloc: skip cpuset enforcement for lower zone allocations Christoph Lameter
2014-05-27 14:53   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-27 14:57     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-05-27 15:31     ` Christoph Lameter

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