From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
Cc: Alex Thorlton <athorlton@sgi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Make transparent hugepages cpuset aware
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1306191939250.24151@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130620022739.GF3658@sgi.com>
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Robin Holt wrote:
> cpusets was not for NUMA. It has no preference for "nodes" or anything like
> that. It was for splitting a machine into layered smaller groups. Usually,
> we see one cpuset with contains the batch scheduler. The batch scheduler then
> creates cpusets for jobs it starts. Has nothing to do with nodes. That is
> more an administrator issue. They set the minimum grouping of resources
> for scheduled jobs.
>
I disagree with all of the above, it's not what Paul Jackson developed
cpusets for, it's not what he wrote in Documentation/cgroups/cpusets.txt,
and it's not why libnuma immediately supported it. Cpusets is for NUMA,
like it or not.
> > I'm saying there's absolutely no reason to have thp controlled by a
> > cpuset, or ANY cgroup for that matter, since you chose not to respond to
> > the question I asked: why do you want to control thp behavior for certain
> > static binaries and not others? Where is the performance regression or
> > the downside? Is it because of max_ptes_none for certain jobs blowing up
> > the rss? We need information, and even if were justifiable then it
> > wouldn't have anything to do with ANY cgroup but rather a per-process
> > control. It has nothing to do with cpusets whatsoever.
>
> It was a request from our benchmarking group that has found some jobs
> benefit from thp, while other are harmed. Let me ask them for more
> details.
>
Yes, please, because if some jobs are harmed by thp then we need to fix
that regression and not paper around with it with some cpuset-based
solution. People should be able to run with CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
enabled and not be required to enable CONFIG_CPUSETS for optimal behavior.
I'm suspecting that you're referring to enlarged rss because of
khugepaged's max_ptes_none and because you're abusing the purpose of
cpusets for containerization.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-20 2:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-11 16:14 Alex Thorlton
2013-06-11 22:20 ` David Rientjes
2013-06-18 16:45 ` Alex Thorlton
2013-06-19 0:01 ` David Rientjes
2013-06-19 9:32 ` Robin Holt
2013-06-19 21:24 ` David Rientjes
2013-06-20 2:27 ` Robin Holt
2013-06-20 2:43 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2013-06-20 3:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-20 20:37 ` David Rientjes
2013-07-29 19:42 ` Alex Thorlton
2013-06-20 3:34 ` Li Zefan
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