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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] memcg: do not sleep on OOM waitqueue with full charge context
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:49:47 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1306121343500.24902@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130612203705.GB17282@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013, Michal Hocko wrote:

> The patch is a big improvement with a minimum code overhead. Blocking
> any task which sits on top of an unpredictable amount of locks is just
> broken. So regardless how many users are affected we should merge it and
> backport to stable trees. The problem is there since ever. We seem to
> be surprisingly lucky to not hit this more often.
> 

Right now it appears that that number of users is 0 and we're talking 
about a problem that was reported in 3.2 that was released a year and a 
half ago.  The rules of inclusion in stable also prohibit such a change 
from being backported, specifically "It must fix a real bug that bothers 
people (not a, "This could be a problem..." type thing)".

We have deployed memcg on a very large number of machines and I can run a 
query over all software watchdog timeouts that have occurred by 
deadlocking on i_mutex during memcg oom.  It returns 0 results.

> I am not quite sure I understand your reservation about the patch to be
> honest. Andrew still hasn't merged this one although 1/2 is in.

Perhaps he is as unconvinced?  The patch adds 100 lines of code, including 
fields to task_struct for memcg, for a problem that nobody can reproduce.  
My question still stands: can anybody, even with an instrumented kernel to 
make it more probable, reproduce the issue this is addressing?

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-12 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-06  3:09 [patch 1/2] arch: invoke oom-killer from page fault Johannes Weiner
2013-06-06  3:09 ` [patch 2/2] memcg: do not sleep on OOM waitqueue with full charge context Johannes Weiner
2013-06-06  4:10   ` David Rientjes
2013-06-06  5:33     ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-06 17:33       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-06 20:11         ` David Rientjes
2013-06-06 21:54           ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-06 22:18             ` David Rientjes
2013-06-07  0:02               ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-11 21:57                 ` David Rientjes
2013-06-12  8:28                   ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-12 20:12                     ` David Rientjes
2013-06-12 20:37                       ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-12 20:49                         ` David Rientjes [this message]
2013-06-13 13:48                           ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-13 20:34                             ` David Rientjes
2013-06-14  9:29                               ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-06 15:23     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-06  3:57 ` [patch 1/2] arch: invoke oom-killer from page fault David Rientjes
2013-06-06  4:36   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-06  4:43     ` David Rientjes
2013-06-06  6:49     ` Vineet Gupta
2013-06-06 14:59     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-06  4:55 ` 刘胜蛟

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