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From: Mark Hairgrove <mhairgrove@nvidia.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/36] HMM: add HMM page table v2.
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:34:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1506261827090.20890@mdh-linux64-2.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150626163030.GA3748@gmail.com>

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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Jerome Glisse wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 03:57:29PM -0700, Mark Hairgrove wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 May 2015, j.glisse@gmail.com wrote:
> > > From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
> > > [...]
> > > +
> > > +void hmm_pt_iter_init(struct hmm_pt_iter *iter);
> > > +void hmm_pt_iter_fini(struct hmm_pt_iter *iter, struct hmm_pt *pt);
> > > +unsigned long hmm_pt_iter_next(struct hmm_pt_iter *iter,
> > > +			       struct hmm_pt *pt,
> > > +			       unsigned long addr,
> > > +			       unsigned long end);
> > > +dma_addr_t *hmm_pt_iter_update(struct hmm_pt_iter *iter,
> > > +			       struct hmm_pt *pt,
> > > +			       unsigned long addr);
> > > +dma_addr_t *hmm_pt_iter_fault(struct hmm_pt_iter *iter,
> > > +			      struct hmm_pt *pt,
> > > +			      unsigned long addr);
> > 
> > I've got a few more thoughts on hmm_pt_iter after looking at some of the 
> > later patches. I think I've convinced myself that this patch functionally 
> > works as-is, but I've got some suggestions and questions about the design.
> > 
> > Right now there are these three major functions:
> > 
> > 1) hmm_pt_iter_update(addr)
> >    - Returns the hmm_pte * for addr, or NULL if none exists.
> > 
> > 2) hmm_pt_iter_fault(addr)
> >    - Returns the hmm_pte * for addr, allocating a new one if none exists.
> > 
> > 3) hmm_pt_iter_next(addr, end)
> >    - Returns the next possibly-valid address. The caller must use
> >      hmm_pt_iter_update to check if there really is an hmm_pte there.
> > 
> > In my view, there are two sources of confusion here:
> > - Naming. "update" shares a name with the HMM mirror callback, and it also
> >   implies that the page tables are "updated" as a result of the call. 
> >   "fault" likewise implies that the function handles a fault in some way.
> >   Neither of these implications are true.
> 
> Maybe hmm_pt_iter_walk & hmm_pt_iter_populate are better name ?

hmm_pt_iter_populate sounds good. See below for _walk.


> 
> 
> > - hmm_pt_iter_next and hmm_pt_iter_update have some overlapping
> >   functionality when compared to traditional iterators, requiring the 
> >   callers to all do this sort of thing:
> > 
> >         hmm_pte = hmm_pt_iter_update(&iter, &mirror->pt, addr);
> >         if (!hmm_pte) {
> >             addr = hmm_pt_iter_next(&iter, &mirror->pt,
> >                         addr, event->end);
> >             continue;
> >         }
> > 
> > Wouldn't it be more efficient and simpler to have _next do all the 
> > iteration internally so it always returns the next valid entry? Then you 
> > could combine _update and _next into a single function, something along 
> > these lines (which also addresses the naming concern):
> > 
> > void hmm_pt_iter_init(iter, pt, start, end);
> > unsigned long hmm_pt_iter_next(iter, hmm_pte *);
> > unsigned long hmm_pt_iter_next_alloc(iter, hmm_pte *);
> > 
> > hmm_pt_iter_next would return the address and ptep of the next valid 
> > entry, taking the place of the existing _update and _next functions. 
> > hmm_pt_iter_next_alloc takes the place of _fault.
> > 
> > Also, since the _next functions don't take in an address, the iterator 
> > doesn't have to handle the input addr being different from iter->cur.
> 
> It would still need to do the same kind of test, this test is really to
> know when you switch from one directory to the next and to drop and take
> reference accordingly.

But all of the directory references are already hidden entirely in the 
iterator _update function. The caller only has to worry about taking 
references on the bottom level, so I don't understand why the iterator 
needs to return to the caller when it hits the end of a directory. Or for 
that matter, why it returns every possible index within a directory to the 
caller whether that index is valid or not.

If _next only returned to the caller when it hit a valid hmm_pte (or end), 
then only one function would be needed (_next) instead of two 
(_update/_walk and _next).


> 
> 
> > The logical extent of this is a callback approach like mm_walk. That would 
> > be nice because the caller wouldn't have to worry about making the _init 
> > and _fini calls. I assume you didn't go with this approach because 
> > sometimes you need to iterate over hmm_pt while doing an mm_walk itself, 
> > and you didn't want the overhead of nesting those?
> 
> Correct i do not want to do a hmm_pt_walk inside a mm_walk, that sounded and
> looked bad in my mind. That being said i could add a hmm_pt_walk like mm_walk
> for device driver and simply have it using the hmm_pt_iter internally.

I agree that nesting walks feels bad. If we can get the hmm_pt_iter API 
simple enough, I don't think an hmm_pt_walk callback approach is 
necessary.


> 
> 
> > Finally, another minor thing I just noticed: shouldn't hmm_pt.h include 
> > <linux/bitops.h> since it uses all of the clear/set/test bit APIs?
> 
> Good catch, i forgot that.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jerome
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-27  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-21 19:31 HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v8 j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 01/36] mmu_notifier: add event information to address invalidation v7 j.glisse
2015-05-30  3:43   ` John Hubbard
2015-06-01 19:03     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-01 23:10       ` John Hubbard
2015-06-03 16:07         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-03 23:02           ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 02/36] mmu_notifier: keep track of active invalidation ranges v3 j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:09   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:32     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-02  9:32   ` John Hubbard
2015-06-03 17:15     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-05  3:29       ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 03/36] mmu_notifier: pass page pointer to mmu_notifier_invalidate_page() j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:17   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:33     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-03  4:25   ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 04/36] mmu_notifier: allow range invalidation to exclude a specific mmu_notifier j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 05/36] HMM: introduce heterogeneous memory management v3 j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:50   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:38     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-08 19:40   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-08 21:17     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-09  1:54       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-09 15:56         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-10  3:33           ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-10 15:42             ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-11  1:15               ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-11 14:23                 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-11 22:26                   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-15 14:32                     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 06/36] HMM: add HMM page table v2 j.glisse
2015-06-19  2:06   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-19 18:07     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-20  2:34       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-25 22:57   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-26 16:30     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-27  1:34       ` Mark Hairgrove [this message]
2015-06-29 14:43         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-07-01  2:51           ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-07-01 15:07             ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 07/36] HMM: add per mirror page table v3 j.glisse
2015-06-25 23:05   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-26 16:43     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-27  3:02       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-29 14:50         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 08/36] HMM: add device page fault support v3 j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 09/36] HMM: add mm page table iterator helpers j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 10/36] HMM: use CPU page table during invalidation j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 11/36] HMM: add discard range helper (to clear and free resources for a range) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 12/36] HMM: add dirty range helper (to toggle dirty bit inside mirror page table) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 13/36] HMM: DMA map memory on behalf of device driver j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 14/36] fork: pass the dst vma to copy_page_range() and its sub-functions j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 15/36] memcg: export get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 16/36] HMM: add special swap filetype for memory migrated to HMM device memory j.glisse
2015-06-24  7:49   ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 17/36] HMM: add new HMM page table flag (valid device memory) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 18/36] HMM: add new HMM page table flag (select flag) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 19/36] HMM: handle HMM device page table entry on mirror page table fault and update j.glisse
2015-05-21 20:22 ` [PATCH 20/36] HMM: mm add helper to update page table when migrating memory back jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 21/36] HMM: mm add helper to update page table when migrating memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 22/36] HMM: add new callback for copying memory from and to device memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 23/36] HMM: allow to get pointer to spinlock protecting a directory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 24/36] HMM: split DMA mapping function in two jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 25/36] HMM: add helpers for migration back to system memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 26/36] HMM: fork copy migrated memory into system memory for child process jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 27/36] HMM: CPU page fault on migrated memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 28/36] HMM: add mirror fault support for system to device memory migration jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 29/36] IB/mlx5: add a new paramter to __mlx_ib_populated_pas for ODP with HMM jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 30/36] IB/mlx5: add a new paramter to mlx5_ib_update_mtt() " jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 31/36] IB/odp: export rbt_ib_umem_for_each_in_range() jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 32/36] IB/odp/hmm: add new kernel option to use HMM for ODP jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 33/36] IB/odp/hmm: add core infiniband structure and helper for ODP with HMM jglisse
2015-06-24 13:59     ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 34/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: add mlx5 HMM device initialization and callback jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 35/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: add page fault support for ODP on HMM jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 36/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: enable ODP using HMM jglisse
2015-05-30  3:01 ` HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v8 John Hubbard
2015-05-31  6:56 ` Haggai Eran

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