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From: Mark Hairgrove <mhairgrove@nvidia.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/36] HMM: add HMM page table v2.
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:34:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1506191928060.19996@mdh-linux64-2.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150619180713.GA17308@gmail.com>



On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Jerome Glisse wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 07:06:08PM -0700, Mark Hairgrove wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 May 2015, j.glisse@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > > +
> > > +static inline dma_addr_t hmm_pde_from_pfn(dma_addr_t pfn)
> > > +{
> > > +	return (pfn << PAGE_SHIFT) | HMM_PDE_VALID;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static inline unsigned long hmm_pde_pfn(dma_addr_t pde)
> > > +{
> > > +	return (pde & HMM_PDE_VALID) ? pde >> PAGE_SHIFT : 0;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > 
> > Does hmm_pde_pfn return a dma_addr_t pfn or a system memory pfn?
> > 
> > The types between these two functions don't match. According to 
> > hmm_pde_from_pfn, both the pde and the pfn are supposed to be dma_addr_t. 
> > But hmm_pde_pfn returns an unsigned long as a pfn instead of a dma_addr_t. 
> > If hmm_pde_pfn sometimes used to get a dma_addr_t pfn then shouldn't it 
> > also return a dma_addr_t, since as you pointed out in the commit message, 
> > dma_addr_t might be bigger than an unsigned long?
> > 
> 
> Yes internal it use dma_addr_t but for device driver that want to use
> physical system page address aka pfn i want them to use the specialize
> helper hmm_pte_from_pfn() and hmm_pte_pfn() so type casting happen in
> hmm and it make it easier to review device driver as device driver will
> be consistent ie either it wants to use pfn or it want to use dma_addr_t
> but not mix the 2.
> 
> A latter patch add the hmm_pte_from_dma() and hmm_pte_dma_addr() helper
> for the dma case. So this patch only introduce the pfn version.

So the only reason for hmm_pde_from_pfn to take in a dma_addr_t is to 
avoid an (unsigned long) cast at the call sites?


> > > [...]
> > > +/* struct hmm_pt_iter - page table iterator states.
> > > + *
> > > + * @ptd: Array of directory struct page pointer for each levels.
> > > + * @ptdp: Array of pointer to mapped directory levels.
> > > + * @dead_directories: List of directories that died while walking page table.
> > > + * @cur: Current address.
> > > + */
> > > +struct hmm_pt_iter {
> > > +	struct page		*ptd[HMM_PT_MAX_LEVEL - 1];
> > > +	dma_addr_t		*ptdp[HMM_PT_MAX_LEVEL - 1];
> > 
> > These are sized to be HMM_PT_MAX_LEVEL - 1 rather than HMM_PT_MAX_LEVEL 
> > because the iterator doesn't store the top level, correct? This results in 
> > a lot of "level - 1" and "level - 2" logic when dealing with the iterator. 
> > Have you considered keeping the levels consistent to get rid of all the 
> > extra offset-by-1 logic?
> 
> All this should be optimized away by the compiler thought i have not
> check the assembly.

I was talking about code readability and maintainability rather than 
performance. It's conceptually simpler to have consistent definitions of 
"level" across both the iterator and the hmm_pt helpers even though the 
iterator doesn't need to access the top level. This would turn "level-1" 
and "level-2" into "level" and "level-1", which I think are simpler to 
follow.


> [...]
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Some iterator may have dereferenced a dead directory entry and looked
> > > +	 * up the struct page but haven't check yet the reference count. As all
> > > +	 * the above happen in rcu read critical section we know that we need
> > > +	 * to wait for grace period before being able to free any of the dead
> > > +	 * directory page.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	synchronize_rcu();
> > > +	list_for_each_entry_safe(ptd, tmp, &iter->dead_directories, lru) {
> > > +		list_del(&ptd->lru);
> > > +		atomic_set(&ptd->_mapcount, -1);
> > > +		__free_page(ptd);
> > > +	}
> > > +}
> > 
> > If I'm following this correctly, a migrate to the device will allocate HMM 
> > page tables and the subsequent migrate from the device will free them. 
> > Assuming that's the case, might thrashing of page allocations be a 
> > problem? What about keeping the HMM page tables around until the actual 
> > munmap() of the corresponding VA range?
> 
> HMM page table is allocate anytime a device mirror a range ie migration to
> device is not a special case. When migrating to and from device, the HMM
> page table is allocated prior to the migration and outlive the migration
> back.
> 
> That said the rational here is that i want to free HMM resources as early as
> possible mostly to support the use GPU on dataset onetime (ie dataset is use
> once and only once by the GPU). I think it will be a common and important use
> case and making sure we free resource early does not prevent other use case
> where dataset are use for longer time to work properly and efficiently.
> 
> In a latter patch i add an helper so that device driver can discard a range
> ie tell HMM that they no longer using a range of address allowing HMM to
> free associated resources.
> 
> However you are correct that currently some MM event will lead to HMM page
> table being free and then reallocated right after once again by the device.
> Which is obviously bad. But because i did not want to make this patch or
> this serie any more complex than it already is i did not include any mecanism
> to delay HMM page table directory reclaim. Such delayed reclaim mecanism is
> on my road map and i think i shared that roadmap with you. I think it is
> something we can optimize latter on. The important part here is that device
> driver knows that HMM page table need to be carefully accessed so that when
> agressive pruning of HMM page table happens it does not disrupt the device
> driver.

Ok, works for me.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-20  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-21 19:31 HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v8 j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 01/36] mmu_notifier: add event information to address invalidation v7 j.glisse
2015-05-30  3:43   ` John Hubbard
2015-06-01 19:03     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-01 23:10       ` John Hubbard
2015-06-03 16:07         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-03 23:02           ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 02/36] mmu_notifier: keep track of active invalidation ranges v3 j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:09   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:32     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-02  9:32   ` John Hubbard
2015-06-03 17:15     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-05  3:29       ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 03/36] mmu_notifier: pass page pointer to mmu_notifier_invalidate_page() j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:17   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:33     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-03  4:25   ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 04/36] mmu_notifier: allow range invalidation to exclude a specific mmu_notifier j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 05/36] HMM: introduce heterogeneous memory management v3 j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:50   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:38     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-08 19:40   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-08 21:17     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-09  1:54       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-09 15:56         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-10  3:33           ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-10 15:42             ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-11  1:15               ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-11 14:23                 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-11 22:26                   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-15 14:32                     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 06/36] HMM: add HMM page table v2 j.glisse
2015-06-19  2:06   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-19 18:07     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-20  2:34       ` Mark Hairgrove [this message]
2015-06-25 22:57   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-26 16:30     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-27  1:34       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-29 14:43         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-07-01  2:51           ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-07-01 15:07             ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 07/36] HMM: add per mirror page table v3 j.glisse
2015-06-25 23:05   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-26 16:43     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-27  3:02       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-29 14:50         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 08/36] HMM: add device page fault support v3 j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 09/36] HMM: add mm page table iterator helpers j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 10/36] HMM: use CPU page table during invalidation j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 11/36] HMM: add discard range helper (to clear and free resources for a range) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 12/36] HMM: add dirty range helper (to toggle dirty bit inside mirror page table) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 13/36] HMM: DMA map memory on behalf of device driver j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 14/36] fork: pass the dst vma to copy_page_range() and its sub-functions j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 15/36] memcg: export get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 16/36] HMM: add special swap filetype for memory migrated to HMM device memory j.glisse
2015-06-24  7:49   ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 17/36] HMM: add new HMM page table flag (valid device memory) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 18/36] HMM: add new HMM page table flag (select flag) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 19/36] HMM: handle HMM device page table entry on mirror page table fault and update j.glisse
2015-05-21 20:22 ` [PATCH 20/36] HMM: mm add helper to update page table when migrating memory back jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 21/36] HMM: mm add helper to update page table when migrating memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 22/36] HMM: add new callback for copying memory from and to device memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 23/36] HMM: allow to get pointer to spinlock protecting a directory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 24/36] HMM: split DMA mapping function in two jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 25/36] HMM: add helpers for migration back to system memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 26/36] HMM: fork copy migrated memory into system memory for child process jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 27/36] HMM: CPU page fault on migrated memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 28/36] HMM: add mirror fault support for system to device memory migration jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 29/36] IB/mlx5: add a new paramter to __mlx_ib_populated_pas for ODP with HMM jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 30/36] IB/mlx5: add a new paramter to mlx5_ib_update_mtt() " jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 31/36] IB/odp: export rbt_ib_umem_for_each_in_range() jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 32/36] IB/odp/hmm: add new kernel option to use HMM for ODP jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 33/36] IB/odp/hmm: add core infiniband structure and helper for ODP with HMM jglisse
2015-06-24 13:59     ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 34/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: add mlx5 HMM device initialization and callback jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 35/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: add page fault support for ODP on HMM jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 36/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: enable ODP using HMM jglisse
2015-05-30  3:01 ` HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v8 John Hubbard
2015-05-31  6:56 ` Haggai Eran

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