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From: Mark Hairgrove <mhairgrove@nvidia.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/36] HMM: introduce heterogeneous memory management v3.
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:54:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1506081841490.1802@mdh-linux64-2.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150608211740.GA5241@gmail.com>

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On Mon, 8 Jun 2015, Jerome Glisse wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 12:40:18PM -0700, Mark Hairgrove wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 21 May 2015, j.glisse@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > This patch only introduce core HMM functions for registering a new
> > > mirror and stopping a mirror as well as HMM device registering and
> > > unregistering.
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > +/* struct hmm_device_operations - HMM device operation callback
> > > + */
> > > +struct hmm_device_ops {
> > > +	/* release() - mirror must stop using the address space.
> > > +	 *
> > > +	 * @mirror: The mirror that link process address space with the device.
> > > +	 *
> > > +	 * When this is call, device driver must kill all device thread using
> > > +	 * this mirror. Also, this callback is the last thing call by HMM and
> > > +	 * HMM will not access the mirror struct after this call (ie no more
> > > +	 * dereference of it so it is safe for the device driver to free it).
> > > +	 * It is call either from :
> > > +	 *   - mm dying (all process using this mm exiting).
> > > +	 *   - hmm_mirror_unregister() (if no other thread holds a reference)
> > > +	 *   - outcome of some device error reported by any of the device
> > > +	 *     callback against that mirror.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	void (*release)(struct hmm_mirror *mirror);
> > > +};
> >
> > The comment that ->release is called when the mm dies doesn't match the
> > implementation. ->release is only called when the mirror is destroyed, and
> > that can only happen after the mirror has been unregistered. This may not
> > happen until after the mm dies.
> >
> > Is the intent for the driver to get the callback when the mm goes down?
> > That seems beneficial so the driver can kill whatever's happening on the
> > device. Otherwise the device may continue operating in a dead address
> > space until the driver's file gets closed and it unregisters the mirror.
>
> This was the intent before merging free & release. I guess i need to
> reinstate the free versus release callback. Sadly the lifetime for HMM
> is more complex than mmu_notifier as we intend the mirror struct to
> be embedded into a driver private struct.

Can you clarify how that's different from mmu_notifiers? Those are also
embedded into a driver-owned struct.

Is the goal to allow calling hmm_mirror_unregister from within the "mm is
dying" HMM callback? I don't know whether that's really necessary as long
as there's some association between the driver files and the mirrors.


> > If so, I think there's a race here in the case of mm teardown happening
> > concurrently with hmm_mirror_unregister.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Do you agree that this sequence can happen, or am I missing something
> > which prevents it?
>
> Can't happen because child have mm->hmm = NULL ie only one hmm per mm
> and hmm is tie to only one mm. It is the responsability of the device
> driver to make sure same apply to private reference to the hmm mirror
> struct ie hmm_mirror should never be tie to a private file struct.

It's useful for the driver to have some association between files and
mirrors. If the file is closed prior to process exit we would like to
unregister the mirror, otherwise it will persist until process teardown.
The association doesn't have to be 1:1 but having the files ref count the
mirror or something would be useful.

But even if we assume no association at all between files and mirrors, are
you sure that prevents the race? The driver may choose to unregister the
hmm_device at any point once its files are closed. In the case of module
unload the device unregister can't be prevented. If mm teardown hasn't
happened yet mirrors may still be active and registered on that
hmm_device. The driver thus has to first call hmm_mirror_unregister on all
active mirrors, then call hmm_device_unregister. mm teardown of those
mirrors may trigger at any point in this sequence, so we're right back to
that race.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-09  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-21 19:31 HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v8 j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 01/36] mmu_notifier: add event information to address invalidation v7 j.glisse
2015-05-30  3:43   ` John Hubbard
2015-06-01 19:03     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-01 23:10       ` John Hubbard
2015-06-03 16:07         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-03 23:02           ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 02/36] mmu_notifier: keep track of active invalidation ranges v3 j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:09   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:32     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-02  9:32   ` John Hubbard
2015-06-03 17:15     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-05  3:29       ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 03/36] mmu_notifier: pass page pointer to mmu_notifier_invalidate_page() j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:17   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:33     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-03  4:25   ` John Hubbard
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 04/36] mmu_notifier: allow range invalidation to exclude a specific mmu_notifier j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 05/36] HMM: introduce heterogeneous memory management v3 j.glisse
2015-05-27  5:50   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-05-27 14:38     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-08 19:40   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-08 21:17     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-09  1:54       ` Mark Hairgrove [this message]
2015-06-09 15:56         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-10  3:33           ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-10 15:42             ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-11  1:15               ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-11 14:23                 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-11 22:26                   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-15 14:32                     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 06/36] HMM: add HMM page table v2 j.glisse
2015-06-19  2:06   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-19 18:07     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-20  2:34       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-25 22:57   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-26 16:30     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-27  1:34       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-29 14:43         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-07-01  2:51           ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-07-01 15:07             ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 07/36] HMM: add per mirror page table v3 j.glisse
2015-06-25 23:05   ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-26 16:43     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-06-27  3:02       ` Mark Hairgrove
2015-06-29 14:50         ` Jerome Glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 08/36] HMM: add device page fault support v3 j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 09/36] HMM: add mm page table iterator helpers j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 10/36] HMM: use CPU page table during invalidation j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 11/36] HMM: add discard range helper (to clear and free resources for a range) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 12/36] HMM: add dirty range helper (to toggle dirty bit inside mirror page table) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 13/36] HMM: DMA map memory on behalf of device driver j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 14/36] fork: pass the dst vma to copy_page_range() and its sub-functions j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 15/36] memcg: export get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 16/36] HMM: add special swap filetype for memory migrated to HMM device memory j.glisse
2015-06-24  7:49   ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 17/36] HMM: add new HMM page table flag (valid device memory) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 18/36] HMM: add new HMM page table flag (select flag) j.glisse
2015-05-21 19:31 ` [PATCH 19/36] HMM: handle HMM device page table entry on mirror page table fault and update j.glisse
2015-05-21 20:22 ` [PATCH 20/36] HMM: mm add helper to update page table when migrating memory back jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 21/36] HMM: mm add helper to update page table when migrating memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 22/36] HMM: add new callback for copying memory from and to device memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:22   ` [PATCH 23/36] HMM: allow to get pointer to spinlock protecting a directory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 24/36] HMM: split DMA mapping function in two jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 25/36] HMM: add helpers for migration back to system memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 26/36] HMM: fork copy migrated memory into system memory for child process jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 27/36] HMM: CPU page fault on migrated memory jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 28/36] HMM: add mirror fault support for system to device memory migration jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 29/36] IB/mlx5: add a new paramter to __mlx_ib_populated_pas for ODP with HMM jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 30/36] IB/mlx5: add a new paramter to mlx5_ib_update_mtt() " jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 31/36] IB/odp: export rbt_ib_umem_for_each_in_range() jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 32/36] IB/odp/hmm: add new kernel option to use HMM for ODP jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 33/36] IB/odp/hmm: add core infiniband structure and helper for ODP with HMM jglisse
2015-06-24 13:59     ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 34/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: add mlx5 HMM device initialization and callback jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 35/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: add page fault support for ODP on HMM jglisse
2015-05-21 20:23   ` [PATCH 36/36] IB/mlx5/hmm: enable ODP using HMM jglisse
2015-05-30  3:01 ` HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v8 John Hubbard
2015-05-31  6:56 ` Haggai Eran

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