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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	devel@openvz.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Kir Kolyshkin <kir@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: Fork bomb limitation in memcg WAS: Re: [PATCH 00/11] kmem controller for memcg: stripped down version
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:38:54 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1206271233080.22162@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FEAD260.4000603@parallels.com>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:

> fork bombs are a way bad behaved processes interfere with the rest of
> the system. In here, I propose fork bomb stopping as a natural
> consequence of the fact that the amount of kernel memory can be limited,
> and each process uses 1 or 2 pages for the stack, that are freed when the
> process goes away.
> 

The obvious disadvantage is that if you use the full-featured kmem 
controller that builds upon this patchset, then you're limiting the about 
of all kmem, not just the stack that this particular set limits.  I hope 
you're not proposing it to go upstream before full support for the kmem 
controller is added so that users who use it only to protect again 
forkbombs soon realize that's no longer possible if your applications do 
any substantial slab allocations, particularly anything that does a lot of 
I/O.

In other words, if I want to run netperf in a memcg with the full-featured 
kmem controller enabled, then its kmem limit must be high enough so that 
it doesn't degrade performance that any limitation on stack allocations 
would be too high to effectively stop forkbombs.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-27 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-25 14:15 Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 01/11] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 17:44   ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:29     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 22:33       ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-26  4:01   ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 02/11] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 23:33   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-06-26  8:39     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 16:16       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-06-26  4:09   ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  7:12     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  8:54       ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  9:08         ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  9:17           ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  9:23             ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 10:03     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 19:48       ` David Rientjes
2012-06-27 20:47         ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 03/11] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  4:11   ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  8:28     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  9:01       ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 04/11] kmem slab accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  4:22   ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  7:09     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 05/11] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  4:25   ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  7:08     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  9:03       ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 06/11] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 18:06   ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:28     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 23:17   ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 14:40     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 15:01     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 18:01       ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 18:08         ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-26 18:14         ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 19:20           ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 15:29     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  9:12   ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  9:17     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27  4:01       ` David Rientjes
2012-06-27  9:33         ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 19:46           ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 07/11] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 18:07   ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:27     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 08/11] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  5:51   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 09/11] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 18:29   ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:36     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 22:49       ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 23:21       ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26  5:23         ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 23:23   ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26  5:24     ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  5:31       ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26  7:23         ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 10/11] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 18:34   ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:25     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  5:59   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-26  7:21     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 11/11] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 16:55   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-25 18:38     ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 20:57       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-26 12:48       ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 13:38         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-26 13:37           ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 13:44             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-26  4:57   ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  5:35     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-26  7:23     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  8:45       ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26  8:44         ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26  9:05           ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 23:27 ` [PATCH 00/11] kmem controller for memcg: stripped down version Andrew Morton
2012-06-26  7:17   ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 21:55     ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-27  1:08       ` David Rientjes
2012-06-27  8:39         ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27  9:29       ` Fork bomb limitation in memcg WAS: " Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 12:29         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-27 12:28           ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 12:35             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-27 19:38         ` David Rientjes [this message]
2012-06-28  9:01           ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-28 22:25             ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-03 11:38               ` Glauber Costa
2012-07-12 15:40                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-08-07 13:59               ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-08 14:15                 ` Glauber Costa

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