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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Stuart Foster <smf.linux@ntlworld.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug 42578] Kernel crash "Out of memory error by X" when using NTFS file system on external USB Hard drive
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:42:49 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1202141441040.25634@router.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120214123424.a4162251.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Andrew Morton wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:00:47 -0600 (CST)
> Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Stuart. Rik, Andrew, should the following be improved in some
> > > way? I did not come to any decent conclusion on what to do with pages in
> > > the inactive list with buffer_head as we are already stripping them when
> > > the pages reach the end of the LRU.
> >
> > We have made the statement in the past that configurations > 8GB on 32
> > bit should not be considered stable or supported? The fact is the more
> > memory you add on 32 bit the less low mem memory is available and the more
> > likely that an OOM will occur for any number of reasons.
>
> I have memories of 16G being usable in earlier kernels.

16G regularly fell over in our environment so we now have an 8G max
restriction for those still using 32 bit.

> Also, if an 8G machine works OK at present, it's only by luck.
> sizeof(buffer_head) is around 100, so it takes 1.6GB of buffer_heads to
> support 8G of 512-byte blocksize pagecache.

Well the slow kernel degradation in operation again. We also require
those 32 bit guys with the 8G limit to run older kernel versions...

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-14 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-42578-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
     [not found] ` <201201180922.q0I9MCYl032623@bugzilla.kernel.org>
2012-01-19 20:24   ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-10 16:37     ` Mel Gorman
2012-02-10 17:01       ` Rik van Riel
2012-02-14 12:17         ` Mel Gorman
2012-02-11 21:28       ` Stuart Foster
2012-02-14 13:09         ` Mel Gorman
2012-02-14 20:00           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-14 20:34             ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-14 20:42               ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2012-02-14 20:37           ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-15 13:57             ` Mel Gorman

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