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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Anand Mitra <anand.mitra@gmail.com>
Cc: Prasad Joshi <prasadjoshi124@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/25]: Propagating GFP_NOFS inside __vmalloc()
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:22:37 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1103121717500.10317@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiniwDx0wjYT439JSBuT=DA12OF_eAVQ782GfJ7W@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Anand Mitra wrote:

> I'll repeat my understanding of the scenario you have pointed out to
> make sure we have understood you correctly.
> 
> On the broad level the changes will cause a __GFP_NOFS flag to be
> present in pte allocation which were earlier absent. The impact of
> this is serious when both __GFP_REPEAT and __GFP_NOFS is set because
> 
> 1) __GFP_NOFS will result in very few pages being reclaimed (can't go
>    to the filesystems)
> 2) __GFP_REPEAT will cause both the reclaim and allocation to retry
>    more aggressively if not indefinitely based on the influence the
>    flag in functions should_alloc_retry & should_continue_reclaim
> 

Yes, __GFP_REPEAT will loop in the page allocator forever if no pages can 
be reclaimed, probably as the result of being !__GFP_FS -- the oom killer 
also won't kill any processes to free memory because it requires __GFP_FS 
(to ensure we don't kill something unnecessarily just because this 
allocation is !__GFP_FS and direct reclaim has a high liklihood of 
failure).

> Effectively we need memory for use by the filesystem but we can't go
> back to the filesystem to claim it. Without the suggested patch we
> would actually try to claim space from the filesystem which would work
> most of the times but would deadlock occasionally. With the suggested
> patch as you have pointed out we can possibly get into a low memory
> hang. I am not sure there is a way out of this, should this be
> considered as genuinely low memory condition out of which the system
> might or might not crawl out of ?
> 

As suggested in my email, I think you should pass "GFP_KERNEL | 
__GFP_REPEAT" into the lower level functions in this patchset instead of 
just GFP_KERNEL and not hard-wire __GFP_REPEAT into the lower level 
functions.  GFP_NOFS | __GFP_REPEAT is a very risky combination that 
shouldn't be used anywhere in the kernel because it risks infinitely 
looping in the page allocator when memory is low.  The callers passing 
only GFP_NOFS should handle the possiblity of returning NULL 
appropraitely.

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      reply	other threads:[~2011-03-13  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-11 20:35 Prasad Joshi
2011-03-11 21:01 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-11 21:13   ` Prasad Joshi
2011-03-11 23:08     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-12  2:05   ` Anand Mitra
2011-03-13  1:22     ` David Rientjes [this message]

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