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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] memcg: add oom killer delay
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:15:21 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1102151906030.19953@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110210090428.6c8a7c21.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:

> Acked-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> 

Thanks!

> Hm. But I'm not sure how this will be used.
> 

Since this patch hasn't been added to -mm even with your acked-by, I'm 
assuming Andrew is waiting for an answer to this :)  I thought it was 
fairly well covered in the changelog, but I'll elaborate:

We can already give userspace a grace period to act before oom killing a 
task by utilizing memory.oom_control.  That's not what the oom killer 
delay addresses, however.  This addresses a very specific (and real) 
problem that occurs when userspace wants that grace period but is unable 
to respond, for whatever reason, to either increase the hard limit or 
allow the oom kill to proceed.  The possibility of that happening would 
cause that memcg to livelock because no forward progress could be made 
when oom, which is a negative result.  We don't have that possibility with 
the global oom killer since the kernel will always choose to act if memory 
freeing is not imminent: in other words, since we've opened the window for 
livelock because of an unreliable userspace via a kernel feature -- namely 
memory.oom_control -- then it's only responsible to provide an alternate 
means to configure the cgroup for the same grace period without risking 
livelock.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-16  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-08  0:24 David Rientjes
2011-02-08  1:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-08  2:13   ` David Rientjes
2011-02-08  2:13     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-08  2:20       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-08  2:37         ` David Rientjes
2011-02-08 10:25           ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-09 22:19 ` David Rientjes
2011-02-10  0:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-16  3:15     ` David Rientjes [this message]
2011-02-20 22:19       ` David Rientjes
2011-02-23 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2011-02-24  0:13     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-24  0:51     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-03 20:11       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-03 21:52       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-08  0:12         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  0:29           ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-08  0:36             ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  0:51               ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-08  1:02                 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  1:18                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-08  1:33                     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  2:51                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-08  3:07                         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  3:13                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-08  3:56                             ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  4:17                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-08  5:30                                 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  5:49                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-08 23:49                                     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-09  6:04                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-09  6:44                                         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-09  7:16                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-09 21:12                                             ` David Rientjes
2011-03-09 21:27                                               ` [patch] memcg: give current access to memory reserves if it's trying to die David Rientjes
2011-03-09 23:30                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-17 23:37                                                   ` David Rientjes
2011-03-17 23:53                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-18  4:35                                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-18  5:17                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-18  5:58                                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-18 20:36                                                       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-18 20:32                                                   ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  3:06                     ` [patch] memcg: add oom killer delay KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-12-22  7:27 David Rientjes
2010-12-22  7:59 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-22  8:17   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-22  8:31     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-22  8:48     ` David Rientjes
2010-12-22  8:48       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-22  8:55         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-22  9:21           ` David Rientjes
2010-12-27  1:47             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-22  9:04         ` David Rientjes
2010-12-22  8:42   ` David Rientjes
2010-12-25 10:47 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-26 20:35   ` David Rientjes

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