From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] set_pgdat_percpu_threshold() don't use for_each_online_cpu
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:29:25 -0600 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011190923370.32655@router.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101116160720.5244ea22.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Following patch use (2) beucase removing get_online_cpus() makes good
> > side effect. It reduce potentially cpu-hotplug vs memory-shortage deadlock
> > risk.
>
> Well. Being able to run for_each_online_cpu() is a pretty low-level
> and fundamental thing. It's something we're likely to want to do more
> and more of as time passes. It seems a bad thing to tell ourselves
> that we cannot use it in reclaim context. That blots out large chunks
> of filesystem and IO-layer code as well!
The online map can change if no locks were taken. Thus it
becomes something difficult to do in some code paths and overhead
increases significantly.
> > threshold = (*calculate_pressure)(zone);
> > - for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
> > + for_each_possible_cpu(cpu)
> > per_cpu_ptr(zone->pageset, cpu)->stat_threshold
> > = threshold;
> > }
> > - put_online_cpus();
> > }
>
> That's a pretty sad change IMO, especially of num_possible_cpus is much
> larger than num_online_cpus.
num_possible_cpus should only be higher if the arch code has detected
that the system has the ability to physically online and offline cpus.
I have never actually seen such a system. Heard rumors from Fujitsu that
they have something.
Maybe the virtualization people also need this? Otherwise cpu
online/offline is useful mainly to debug the cpu offline/online handling
in various subsystems which is unsurprisingly often buggy given the rarity
of encountering such hardware.
> What do we need to do to make get_online_cpus() safe to use in reclaim
> context? (And in kswapd context, if that's really equivalent to
> "reclaim context").
I think its not worth the effort.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-19 15:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-27 8:47 [PATCH 0/2] Reduce the amount of time spent in watermark-related functions Mel Gorman
2010-10-27 8:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low Mel Gorman
2010-10-27 20:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-28 1:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-28 9:49 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-28 9:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-14 8:53 ` [PATCH] set_pgdat_percpu_threshold() don't use for_each_online_cpu KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15 10:26 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-15 14:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-16 9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-17 0:07 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-19 15:29 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2010-11-23 8:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-01 7:06 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-26 16:06 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 9:56 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29 13:16 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:08 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29 15:22 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:26 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-23 22:18 ` David Rientjes
2010-12-23 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-23 23:00 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-12-23 23:07 ` David Rientjes
2010-12-23 23:17 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-27 8:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: vmstat: Use a single setter function and callback for adjusting percpu thresholds Mel Gorman
2010-10-27 20:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-28 1:10 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-01 7:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
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