From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: npiggin@kernel.dk, Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: vmscan: Do not run shrinkers for zones other than ZONE_NORMAL
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:13:28 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010211607430.32674@router.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101021135904.48a9c479.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > With the per node patch we may be able to get some more finegrained slab
> > reclaim in the future. But the subsystems are still not distinguishing
> > caches per zone since slab allocations always occur from ZONE_NORMAL. So
> > what is the point of the additional calls?
> >
>
> In other words, you don't know!
Do you know what the point of calling slab_shrink() per zone in one
location (kswapd) vs. for each reclaim pass in direct reclaim is?
> Theoretical design arguments are all well and good. But practical,
> empirical results rule, and we don't know the practical, empirical
> effects of this change upon our users.
If we want to use the shrinkers for node specific reclaim then we
need to have some sane methodology to this. Not only "we have done it this
way and we do not know why but it works". There seems to be already other
dark grown heuristics around slab_reclaim.
But maybe its better to throw the two changes together to make this one
patch for per node slab reclaim support.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-21 21:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-21 17:59 Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 18:00 ` shrinkers: Add node to indicate where to target shrinking Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 18:12 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-21 20:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-21 21:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-22 13:27 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-21 23:58 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22 12:12 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-22 15:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-22 16:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-24 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-25 0:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 14:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-09 4:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22 16:46 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-24 1:31 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-14 2:26 ` Michel Lespinasse
2010-11-14 7:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14 11:05 ` Michel Lespinasse
2010-11-15 0:29 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-21 18:13 ` vmscan: Do not run shrinkers for zones other than ZONE_NORMAL Andi Kleen
2010-10-21 18:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 18:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 18:33 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-21 20:48 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-21 20:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 19:40 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-21 20:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 20:14 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-21 20:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 20:36 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-21 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 20:59 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-21 21:13 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2010-10-21 21:21 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-21 23:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-21 23:56 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-22 1:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-22 14:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-24 1:37 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-25 1:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 15:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-26 2:52 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-26 12:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-26 13:10 ` Christoph Lameter
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