From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2][BUGFIX] oom: remove totalpage normalization from oom_badness()
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:50:22 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1008251920510.6227@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100826101139.eb05fe2d.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> Hmm. I'll add a text like following to cgroup/memory.txt. O.K. ?
>
> ==
> Notes on oom_score and oom_score_adj.
>
> oom_score is calculated as
> oom_score = (taks's proportion of memory) + oom_score_adj.
>
I'd replace "memory" with "memory limit (or memsw limit)" so it's clear
we're talking about the amount of memory available to task.
> Then, when you use oom_score_adj to control the order of priority of oom,
> you should know about the amount of memory you can use.
Hmm, you need to know the amount of memory that you can use iff you know
the memcg limit and it's a static value. Otherwise, you only need to know
the "memory usage of your application relative to others in the same
cgroup." An oom_score_adj of +300 adds 30% of that memcg's limit to the
task, allowing all other tasks to use 30% more memory than that task with
it still be killed. An oom_score_adj of -300 allows that task to use 30%
more memory than other tasks without getting killed. These don't need to
know the actual limit.
> So, an approximate oom_score under memcg can be
>
> memcg_oom_score = (oom_score - oom_score_adj) * system_memory/memcg's limit
> + oom_score_adj.
>
Right, that's the exact score within the memcg.
But, I still wouldn't encourage a formula like this because the memcg
limit (or cpuset mems, mempolicy nodes, etc) are dynamic and may change
out from under us. So it's more important to define oom_score_adj in the
user's mind as a proportion of memory available to be added (either
positively or negatively) to its memory use when comparing it to other
tasks. The point is that the memcg limit isn't interesting in this
formula, it's more important to understand the priority of the task
_compared_ to other tasks memory usage in that memcg.
It probably would be helpful, though, if you know that a vital system task
uses 1G, for instance, in a 4G memcg that an oom_score_adj of -250 will
disable oom killing for it. If that tasks leaks memory or becomes
significantly large, for whatever reason, it could be killed, but we _can_
discount the 1G in comparison to other tasks as the "cost of doing
business" when it comes to vital system tasks:
(memory usage) * (memory+swap limit / system memory)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-26 2:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-25 9:42 KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-25 9:42 ` [PATCH 2/2][BUGFIX] Revert "oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable" KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-25 10:27 ` David Rientjes
2010-08-25 10:25 ` [PATCH 1/2][BUGFIX] oom: remove totalpage normalization from oom_badness() David Rientjes
2010-08-26 0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26 0:52 ` David Rientjes
2010-08-26 1:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26 1:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26 2:50 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-08-26 3:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26 3:52 ` David Rientjes
2010-08-30 2:58 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 22:06 ` David Rientjes
2010-09-08 2:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-08 3:12 ` David Rientjes
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