From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm 01/18] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:07:03 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1006081802380.19582@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100608170630.80753ed1.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Tasks that do not share the same set of allowed nodes with the task that
> > triggered the oom should not be considered as candidates for oom kill.
> >
> > Tasks in other cpusets with a disjoint set of mems would be unfairly
> > penalized otherwise because of oom conditions elsewhere; an extreme
> > example could unfairly kill all other applications on the system if a
> > single task in a user's cpuset sets itself to OOM_DISABLE and then uses
> > more memory than allowed.
>
> OK, so Nick's change didn't anticipate things being set to OOM_DISABLE?
>
I wrote out a more elaborate rebuttal to this in your reply to my latest
patchset, but not strictly eliminating these tasks from consideration
unfairly penalizes tasks in other cpusets simply because their big,
there's no way to understand the scale of other cpusets compared to
current's with a single divide in the heuristic (in this case, divide by
8), and there's no guarantee that killing such a task would free any
memory which would have two results: (i) we need to reinvoke the oom
killer to kill yet another task, and (ii) we've now unnecessarily killed a
task simply because it was large and probably lost a substantial amount of
work.
> OOM_DISABLE seems pretty dangerous really - allows malicious
> unprivileged users to go homicidal?
>
OOM_DISABLE doesn't get set without CAP_SYS_RESOURCE, you need that
capability to decrease an oom_adj value. So my changelog could probably
benefit from s/user/job/.
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Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-01 7:18 [patch -mm 00/18] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 01/18] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:37 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17 3:33 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-21 11:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:43 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:25 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 23:54 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 1:07 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 02/18] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:41 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-14 8:54 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-14 11:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:45 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 03/18] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 04/18] oom: extract panic helper function David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 05/18] oom: remove special handling for pagefault ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 06/18] oom: move sysctl declarations to oom.h David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 07/18] oom: enable oom tasklist dump by default David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 08/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:44 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:20 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 23:10 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-03 23:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04 0:04 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-04 0:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04 5:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04 9:22 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-04 9:19 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-04 9:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-04 10:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-04 20:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:47 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-17 3:28 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:46 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 18:56 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:23 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-03 6:44 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 3:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-03 6:48 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 23:15 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-04 10:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 09/18] oom: add forkbomb penalty to badness heuristic David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 20:33 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 10/18] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 11/18] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:38 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 12/18] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:58 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 13/18] oom: avoid race for oom killed tasks detaching mm prior to exit David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:59 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 20:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-01 21:19 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-02 9:49 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 10:46 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-02 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 14/18] oom: check PF_KTHREAD instead of !mm to skip kthreads David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 15/18] oom: introduce find_lock_task_mm() to fix !mm false positives David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 16/18] oom: give current access to memory reserves if it has been killed David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 17/18] oom: avoid sending exiting tasks a SIGKILL David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 18/18] oom: clean up oom_kill_task() David Rientjes
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