From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail138.messagelabs.com (mail138.messagelabs.com [216.82.249.35]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445186B01AD for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wpaz13.hot.corp.google.com (wpaz13.hot.corp.google.com [172.24.198.77]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id o52LNwda015871 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2010 14:23:58 -0700 Received: from pzk32 (pzk32.prod.google.com [10.243.19.160]) by wpaz13.hot.corp.google.com with ESMTP id o52LNv7j030226 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2010 14:23:57 -0700 Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so3288100pzk.21 for ; Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 14:23:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David Rientjes Subject: Re: [patch -mm 08/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite In-Reply-To: <20100602222347.F527.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> Message-ID: References: <20100601074620.GR9453@laptop> <20100602222347.F527.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org To: KOSAKI Motohiro Cc: Nick Piggin , Andrew Morton , Rik van Riel , Oleg Nesterov , KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki , Balbir Singh , linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > > I'm glad you asked that because some recent conversation has been > > slightly confusing to me about how this affects the desktop; this rewrite > > significantly improves the oom killer's response for desktop users. The > > core ideas were developed in the thread from this mailing list back in > > February called "Improving OOM killer" at > > http://marc.info/?t=126506191200004&r=4&w=2 -- users constantly report > > that vital system tasks such as kdeinit are killed whenever a memory > > hogging task is forked either intentionally or unintentionally. I argued > > for a while that KDE should be taking proper precautions by adjusting its > > own oom_adj score and that of its forked children as it's an inherited > > value, but I was eventually convinced that an overall improvement to the > > heuristic must be made to kill a task that was known to free a large > > amount of memory that is resident in RAM and that we have a consistent way > > of defining oom priorities when a task is run uncontained and when it is a > > member of a memcg or cpuset (or even mempolicy now), even in the case when > > it's contained out from under the task's knowledge. When faced with > > memory pressure from an out of control or memory hogging task on the > > desktop, the oom killer now kills it instead of a vital task such as an X > > server (and oracle, webserver, etc on server platforms) because of the use > > of the task's rss instead of total_vm statistic. > > The above story teach us oom-killer need some improvement. but it haven't > prove your patches are correct solution. that's why you got to ask testing way. > I would consider what I said above, "when faced with memory pressure from an out of control or memory hogging task on the desktop, the oom killer now kills it instead of a vital task such as an X server because of the use of the task's rss instead of total_vm statistic" as an improvement over killing X in those cases which it currently does. How do you disagree? -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org