From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 03:02:26 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1005250257100.8045@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimhTfz_mMWNh_r18yapNxSDjA7wRDnFM6L5aIdE@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 25 May 2010, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> I wouldn't say it's a nightmare, but yes, it could be better. From my
> point of view SLUB is the base of whatever the future will be because
> the code is much cleaner and simpler than SLAB.
The code may be much cleaner and simpler than slab, but nobody (to date)
has addressed the significant netperf TCP_RR regression that slub has, for
example. I worked on a patchset to do that for a while but it wasn't
popular because it added some increments to the fastpath for tracking
data.
I think it's great to have clean and simple code, but even considering its
use is a non-starter when the entire kernel is significantly slower for
certain networking loads.
> That's why I find
> Christoph's work on SLEB more interesting than SLQB, for example,
> because it's building on top of something that's mature and stable.
>
> That said, are you proposing that even without further improvements to
> SLUB, we should go ahead and, for example, remove SLAB from Kconfig
> for v2.6.36 and see if we can just delete the whole thing from, say,
> v2.6.38?
>
We use slab internally specifically because of the slub regressions.
Removing it from the kernel at this point would be the equivalent of
saying that Linux cares about certain workloads more than others since
there are clearly benchmarks that show slub to be inferior in pure
performance numbers. I'd love for us to switch to slub but we can't take
the performance hit.
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-21 21:14 Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 01/14] slab: Introduce a constant for a unspecified node Christoph Lameter
2010-06-07 21:44 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-07 22:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-06-08 5:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-08 6:20 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 6:34 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-08 23:35 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 5:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-09 6:20 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 02/14] SLUB: Constants need UL Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 03/14] SLUB: Use kmem_cache flags to detect if Slab is in debugging mode Christoph Lameter
2010-06-08 3:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 04/14] SLUB: discard_slab_unlock Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 05/14] SLUB: is_kmalloc_cache Christoph Lameter
2010-06-08 8:54 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 06/14] SLUB: Get rid of the kmalloc_node slab Christoph Lameter
2010-06-09 6:14 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 16:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-06-09 16:26 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-10 6:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 07/14] SLEB: The Enhanced Slab Allocator Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 08/14] SLEB: Resize cpu queue Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 09/14] SLED: Get rid of useless function Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 10/14] SLEB: Remove MAX_OBJS limitation Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 11/14] SLEB: Add per node cache (with a fixed size for now) Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 12/14] SLEB: Make the size of the shared cache configurable Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 13/14] SLEB: Enhanced NUMA support Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 14/14] SLEB: Allocate off node objects from remote shared caches Christoph Lameter
2010-05-22 8:37 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator Pekka Enberg
2010-05-24 7:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-24 15:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 2:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 6:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 7:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 8:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 8:16 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 9:34 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 9:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 10:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 10:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 11:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-25 15:43 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 17:02 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 17:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 17:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 17:40 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 10:07 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-25 10:02 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-05-25 10:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 19:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-25 14:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 14:34 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 14:43 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 15:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 15:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 15:37 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 14:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-27 14:37 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-27 16:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 16:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-28 8:39 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 14:40 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 15:12 ` Nick Piggin
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