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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:54:32 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1003241453270.14329@router.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100324103749.GB21147@csn.ul.ie>

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:

> > > What I was thinking at the time was that compact_resume was stored in struct
> > > zone - i.e. that is where it is recorded.
> >
> > Ok adding a dozen or more words here may be useful.
> >
>
> In the event of compaction followed by an allocation failure, this patch
> defers further compaction in the zone for a period of time. The zone that
> is deferred is the first zone in the zonelist - i.e. the preferred zone.
> To defer compaction in the other zones, the information would need to
> be stored in the zonelist or implemented similar to the zonelist_cache.
> This would impact the fast-paths and is not justified at this time.
>
> ?

Ok.

> > There are frequent uses of HZ/10 as well especially in vmscna.c. A longer
> > time may be better? HZ/50 looks like an interval for writeout. But this
> > is related to reclaim?
> >
>
> HZ/10 is somewhat of an arbitrary choice as well and there isn't data on
> which is better and which is worse. If the zone is full of dirty data, then
> HZ/10 makes sense for IO. If it happened to be mainly clean cache but under
> heavy memory pressure, then reclaim would be a relatively fast event and a
> shorter wait makes sense of HZ/50.
>
> Thing is, if we start with a short timer and it's too short, COMPACTFAIL
> will be growing steadily. If we choose a long time and it's too long, there
> is no counter to indicate it was a bad choice. Hence, I'd prefer the short
> timer to start with and ideally resume compaction after some event in the
> future rather than depending on time.
>
> Does that make sense?

Yes.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-24 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23 12:25 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v5 Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm,migration: Take a reference to the anon_vma before migrating Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:04     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm: Share the anon_vma ref counts between KSM and page migration Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 23:55   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] Allow CONFIG_MIGRATION to be set without CONFIG_NUMA or memory hot-remove Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] Export unusable free space index via /proc/unusable_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:14     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24  0:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  0:16     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  0:13       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 10:25     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] Export fragmentation index via /proc/extfrag_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:37   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] Memory compaction core Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:56   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:15     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:58         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:20           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24  1:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  1:47     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  1:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24  2:10         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 10:57           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 20:59     ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:14       ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 21:19         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 21:19       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:28         ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:47           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:54             ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 22:06               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:57             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-25  9:13     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:32     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-26 10:46     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] Add /sys trigger for per-node " Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 22:45   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  0:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 23:10   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 11:11     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 11:59       ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:06         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:10           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:09         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:25           ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24  1:19   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 11:40     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  0:30       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25  9:48         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  9:50           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:16             ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26  1:03               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-26  9:40                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:48   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25  0:57     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:21     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:39     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:27       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 10:37         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 19:54           ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2010-03-24 20:53   ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25  9:40     ` Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-12 16:41 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v4 Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman

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