From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:54:32 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1003241453270.14329@router.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100324103749.GB21147@csn.ul.ie>
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > What I was thinking at the time was that compact_resume was stored in struct
> > > zone - i.e. that is where it is recorded.
> >
> > Ok adding a dozen or more words here may be useful.
> >
>
> In the event of compaction followed by an allocation failure, this patch
> defers further compaction in the zone for a period of time. The zone that
> is deferred is the first zone in the zonelist - i.e. the preferred zone.
> To defer compaction in the other zones, the information would need to
> be stored in the zonelist or implemented similar to the zonelist_cache.
> This would impact the fast-paths and is not justified at this time.
>
> ?
Ok.
> > There are frequent uses of HZ/10 as well especially in vmscna.c. A longer
> > time may be better? HZ/50 looks like an interval for writeout. But this
> > is related to reclaim?
> >
>
> HZ/10 is somewhat of an arbitrary choice as well and there isn't data on
> which is better and which is worse. If the zone is full of dirty data, then
> HZ/10 makes sense for IO. If it happened to be mainly clean cache but under
> heavy memory pressure, then reclaim would be a relatively fast event and a
> shorter wait makes sense of HZ/50.
>
> Thing is, if we start with a short timer and it's too short, COMPACTFAIL
> will be growing steadily. If we choose a long time and it's too long, there
> is no counter to indicate it was a bad choice. Hence, I'd prefer the short
> timer to start with and ideally resume compaction after some event in the
> future rather than depending on time.
>
> Does that make sense?
Yes.
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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-23 12:25 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v5 Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm,migration: Take a reference to the anon_vma before migrating Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:04 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm: Share the anon_vma ref counts between KSM and page migration Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 23:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] Allow CONFIG_MIGRATION to be set without CONFIG_NUMA or memory hot-remove Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] Export unusable free space index via /proc/unusable_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:14 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 0:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 0:16 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 0:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 10:25 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] Export fragmentation index via /proc/extfrag_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] Memory compaction core Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:15 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 1:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 1:47 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 1:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 2:10 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 10:57 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 20:59 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:14 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-24 21:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 21:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:28 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 21:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:54 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-24 22:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-24 21:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-03-25 9:13 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:32 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:33 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-26 10:46 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] Add /sys trigger for per-node " Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 22:45 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 0:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 23:10 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 11:11 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 11:59 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 12:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:09 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 12:25 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-24 1:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-24 11:40 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25 0:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 9:48 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25 9:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:16 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26 1:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-26 9:40 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 20:48 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25 0:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 10:21 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 18:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:39 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 19:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-24 10:37 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-24 19:54 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2010-03-24 20:53 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-25 9:40 ` Mel Gorman
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2010-03-12 16:41 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v4 Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
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