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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@suse.cz>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm 4/9 v2] oom: remove compulsory panic_on_oom mode
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:31:39 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002161623190.11952@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100217090124.398769d5.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:

> Hmm, I have a few reason to add special behavior to memcg rather than panic.
> 
>  - freeze_at_oom is enough.
>    If OOM can be notified, the management daemon can do useful jobs. Shutdown
>    all other cgroups or migrate them to other host and do kdump.
> 

The same could be said for cpusets if users use that for memory isolation.

> But, Hmm...I'd like to go this way.
> 
>  1. At first, support panic_on_oom=2 in memcg.
> 

This should panic in mem_cgroup_out_of_memory() and the documentation 
should be added to Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt.

The memory controller also has some protection in the pagefault oom 
handler that seems like it could be made more general: instead of checking 
for mem_cgroup_oom_called(), I'd rather do a tasklist scan to check for 
already oom killed task (checking for the TIF_MEMDIE bit) and check all 
zones for ZONE_OOM_LOCKED.  If no oom killed tasks are found and no zones 
are locked, we can check sysctl_panic_on_oom and invoke the system-wide 
oom.

>  2. Second, I'll add OOM-notifier and freeze_at_oom to memcg.
>     and don't call memcg_out_of_memory in oom_kill.c in this case. Because
>     we don't kill anything. Taking coredumps of all procs in memcg is not
>     very difficult.
> 

The oom notifier would be at a higher level than the oom killer, the oom 
killer's job is simply to kill a task when it is called.  So for these 
particular cases, you would never even call into out_of_memory() to panic 
the machine in the first place.  Hopefully, the oom notifier can be made 
to be more generic as its own cgroup rather than only being used by memcg, 
but if such a userspace notifier would defer to the kernel oom killer, it 
should panic when panic_on_oom == 2 is selected regardless of whether it 
is constrained or not.  Thus, we can keep the sysctl_panic_on_oom logic in 
the oom killer (both in out_of_memory() and mem_cgroup_out_of_memory()) 
without risk of unnecessarily panic whenever an oom notifier or 
freeze_at_oom setting intercepts the condition.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-17  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-15 22:19 [patch -mm 0/9 v2] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 1/9 v2] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-02-16  6:14   ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 2/9 v2] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-02-16  6:15   ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 3/9 v2] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-02-23  6:31   ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-23  8:17     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 4/9 v2] oom: remove compulsory panic_on_oom mode David Rientjes
2010-02-16  0:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  0:14     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  0:23       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  9:02         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 23:42           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 23:54             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  0:01               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  0:31                 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-02-17  0:41                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  0:54                     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  1:03                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  1:58                       ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  2:13                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  2:23                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  2:37                             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  2:28                           ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  2:34                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  2:58                               ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  3:21                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  9:11                                   ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  9:52                                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-17 22:04                                       ` David Rientjes
2010-02-22  5:31                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-02-22  6:15                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-22 11:42                                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-02-22 20:59                                     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-22 23:51                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-22 20:55                                   ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  2:19                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-16  6:20   ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  6:59     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  7:20       ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  7:53         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  8:08           ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  8:10             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  8:42             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 5/9 v2] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 6/9 v2] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:28   ` Alan Cox
2010-02-15 22:35     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 7/9 v2] oom: replace sysctls with quick mode David Rientjes
2010-02-16  6:28   ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  8:58     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 8/9 v2] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-02-15 23:57   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  0:10     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  0:21       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  1:13         ` [patch] mm: add comment about deprecation of __GFP_NOFAIL David Rientjes
2010-02-16  1:26           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  7:03             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  7:23               ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  5:32       ` [patch -mm 8/9 v2] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-16  7:29         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  6:44       ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  7:41         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  7:53           ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  8:25             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 23:48               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  0:03                 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  0:03                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  0:21                     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-23 11:24                       ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-23 21:12                         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 9/9 v2] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes

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