From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@suse.cz>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm 7/9 v2] oom: replace sysctls with quick mode
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:58:09 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002160052010.17122@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100216062833.GB5723@laptop>
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > Two VM sysctls, oom dump_tasks and oom_kill_allocating_task, were
> > implemented for very large systems to avoid excessively long tasklist
> > scans. The former suppresses helpful diagnostic messages that are
> > emitted for each thread group leader that are candidates for oom kill
> > including their pid, uid, vm size, rss, oom_adj value, and name; this
> > information is very helpful to users in understanding why a particular
> > task was chosen for kill over others. The latter simply kills current,
> > the task triggering the oom condition, instead of iterating through the
> > tasklist looking for the worst offender.
> >
> > Both of these sysctls are combined into one for use on the aforementioned
> > large systems: oom_kill_quick. This disables the now-default
> > oom_dump_tasks and kills current whenever the oom killer is called.
> >
> > The oom killer rewrite is the perfect opportunity to combine both sysctls
> > into one instead of carrying around the others for years to come for
> > nothing else than legacy purposes.
>
> I just don't understand this either. There appears to be simply no
> performance or maintainability reason to change this.
>
When oom_dump_tasks() is always emitted for out of memory conditions as my
patch does, then these two tunables have the exact same audience: users
with large systems that have extremely long tasklists. They want to avoid
tasklist scanning (either to select a bad process to kill or dump their
information) in oom conditions and simply kill the allocating task. I
chose to combine the two: we're not concerned about breaking the
oom_dump_tasks ABI since it's now the default behavior and since we scan
the tasklist for mempolicy-constrained ooms, users may now choose to
enable oom_kill_allocating_task when they previously wouldn't have. To do
that, they can either use the old sysctl or convert to this new sysctl
with the benefit that we've removed one unnecessary sysctl from
/proc/sys/vm.
As far as I know, oom_kill_allocating_task is only used by SGI, anyway,
since they are the ones who asked for it when I implemented cpuset
tasklist scanning. It's certainly not widely used and since the semantics
for mempolicies have changed, oom_kill_quick may find more users.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-16 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-15 22:19 [patch -mm 0/9 v2] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 1/9 v2] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-02-16 6:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 2/9 v2] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-02-16 6:15 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 3/9 v2] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-02-23 6:31 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-23 8:17 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 4/9 v2] oom: remove compulsory panic_on_oom mode David Rientjes
2010-02-16 0:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 0:14 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 0:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 9:02 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 23:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 23:54 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 0:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 0:31 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 0:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 0:54 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 1:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 1:58 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 2:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 2:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 2:37 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 2:28 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 2:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 2:58 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 3:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 9:11 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 9:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-17 22:04 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-22 5:31 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-02-22 6:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-22 11:42 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-02-22 20:59 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-22 23:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-22 20:55 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 2:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-16 6:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16 6:59 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 7:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16 7:53 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 8:08 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16 8:10 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 8:42 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 5/9 v2] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 6/9 v2] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:28 ` Alan Cox
2010-02-15 22:35 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 7/9 v2] oom: replace sysctls with quick mode David Rientjes
2010-02-16 6:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16 8:58 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 8/9 v2] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-02-15 23:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 0:10 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 0:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 1:13 ` [patch] mm: add comment about deprecation of __GFP_NOFAIL David Rientjes
2010-02-16 1:26 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 7:03 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 7:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16 5:32 ` [patch -mm 8/9 v2] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-16 7:29 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 6:44 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16 7:41 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 7:53 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16 8:25 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 23:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 0:03 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17 0:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17 0:21 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-23 11:24 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-23 21:12 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 9/9 v2] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes
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