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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@suse.cz>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm 4/9 v2] oom: remove compulsory panic_on_oom mode
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:59:26 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002152252310.2745@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100216062035.GA5723@laptop>

On Tue, 16 Feb 2010, Nick Piggin wrote:

> What is the point of removing it, though? If it doesn't significantly
> help some future patch, just leave it in. It's not worth breaking the
> user/kernel interface just to remove 3 trivial lines of code.
> 

Because it is inconsistent at the user's expense, it has never panicked 
the machine for memory controller ooms, so why is a cpuset or mempolicy 
constrained oom conditions any different?  It also panics the machine even 
on VM_FAULT_OOM which is ridiculous, the tunable is certainly not being 
used how it was documented and so given the fact that mempolicy 
constrained ooms are now much smarter with my rewrite and we never simply 
kill current unless oom_kill_quick is enabled anymore, the compulsory 
panic_on_oom == 2 mode is no longer required.  Simply set all tasks 
attached to a cpuset or bound to a specific mempolicy to be OOM_DISABLE, 
the kernel need not provide confusing alternative modes to sysctls for 
this behavior.  Before panic_on_oom == 2 was introduced, it would have 
only panicked the machine if panic_on_oom was set to a non-zero integer, 
defining it be something different for '2' after it has held the same 
semantics for years is inappropriate.  There is just no concrete example 
that anyone can give where they want a cpuset-constrained oom to panic the 
machine when other tasks on a disjoint set of mems can continue to do 
work and the cpuset of interest cannot have its tasks set to OOM_DISABLE.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-16  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-15 22:19 [patch -mm 0/9 v2] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 1/9 v2] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-02-16  6:14   ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 2/9 v2] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-02-16  6:15   ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 3/9 v2] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-02-23  6:31   ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-23  8:17     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 4/9 v2] oom: remove compulsory panic_on_oom mode David Rientjes
2010-02-16  0:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  0:14     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  0:23       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  9:02         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 23:42           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16 23:54             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  0:01               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  0:31                 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  0:41                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  0:54                     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  1:03                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  1:58                       ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  2:13                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  2:23                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  2:37                             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  2:28                           ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  2:34                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  2:58                               ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  3:21                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  9:11                                   ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  9:52                                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-17 22:04                                       ` David Rientjes
2010-02-22  5:31                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-02-22  6:15                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-22 11:42                                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-02-22 20:59                                     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-22 23:51                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-22 20:55                                   ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  2:19                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-16  6:20   ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  6:59     ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-02-16  7:20       ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  7:53         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  8:08           ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  8:10             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  8:42             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 5/9 v2] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 6/9 v2] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:28   ` Alan Cox
2010-02-15 22:35     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 7/9 v2] oom: replace sysctls with quick mode David Rientjes
2010-02-16  6:28   ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  8:58     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 8/9 v2] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-02-15 23:57   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  0:10     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  0:21       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  1:13         ` [patch] mm: add comment about deprecation of __GFP_NOFAIL David Rientjes
2010-02-16  1:26           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-16  7:03             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  7:23               ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  5:32       ` [patch -mm 8/9 v2] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-16  7:29         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  6:44       ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  7:41         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16  7:53           ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-16  8:25             ` David Rientjes
2010-02-16 23:48               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  0:03                 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-17  0:03                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-17  0:21                     ` David Rientjes
2010-02-23 11:24                       ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-23 21:12                         ` David Rientjes
2010-02-15 22:20 ` [patch -mm 9/9 v2] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes

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