From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
Cc: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
l.lunak@suse.cz, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
jkosina@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Improving OOM killer
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:52:25 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002031141350.27853@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201002032029.34145.elendil@planet.nl>
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
> > * /proc/pid/oom_adj ranges from -1000 to +1000 to either
> > * completely disable oom killing or always prefer it.
> > */
> > points += p->signal->oom_adj;
> >
>
> Wouldn't that cause a rather huge compatibility issue given that the
> current oom_adj works in a totally different way:
>
> ! 3.1 /proc/<pid>/oom_adj - Adjust the oom-killer score
> ! ------------------------------------------------------
> ! This file can be used to adjust the score used to select which processes
> ! should be killed in an out-of-memory situation. Giving it a high score
> ! will increase the likelihood of this process being killed by the
> ! oom-killer. Valid values are in the range -16 to +15, plus the special
> ! value -17, which disables oom-killing altogether for this process.
>
> ?
>
I thought about whether we'd need an additional, complementary tunable
such as /proc/pid/oom_bias that would effect this new memory-charging bias
in the heuristic. It could be implemented so that writing to oom_adj
would clear oom_bias and vice versa.
Although that would certainly be possible, I didn't propose it for a
couple of reasons:
- it would clutter the space to have two seperate tunables when the
metrics that /proc/pid/oom_adj uses has become obsolete by the new
baseline as a fraction of total RAM, and
- we have always exported OOM_DISABLE, OOM_ADJUST_MIN, and OOM_ADJUST_MAX
via include/oom.h so that userspace should use them sanely. Setting
a particular oom_adj value for anything other than OOM_DISABLE means
the score will be relative to other system tasks, so its a value that
is typically calibrated at runtime rather than static, hardcoded
values.
We could reuse /proc/pid/oom_adj for the new heuristic by severely
reducing its granularity than it otherwise would by doing
(oom_adj * 1000 / OOM_ADJUST_MAX), but that will eventually become
annoying and much more difficult to document.
Given your citation, I don't think we've ever described /proc/pid/oom_adj
outside of the implementation as a bitshift, either. So its use right now
for anything other than OOM_DISABLE is probably based on scalar thinking.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-03 19:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-01 22:02 Lubos Lunak
2010-02-01 23:53 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-02 21:10 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03 1:41 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 1:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-03 2:12 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 2:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-03 2:36 ` [patch] sysctl: clean up vm related variable declarations David Rientjes
2010-02-03 8:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03 8:17 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 22:54 ` Improving OOM killer Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 0:00 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 7:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03 9:40 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 8:57 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 12:10 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03 12:25 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 15:00 ` Minchan Kim
2010-02-03 16:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-02-03 21:22 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03 14:49 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-03 17:01 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 18:58 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 19:29 ` Frans Pop
2010-02-03 19:52 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-02-03 20:12 ` Frans Pop
2010-02-03 20:26 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 22:55 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 0:05 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 0:18 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-04 21:48 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 22:06 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-04 22:14 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-10 20:54 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 21:10 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-10 21:29 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 22:18 ` Alan Cox
2010-02-10 22:31 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-11 9:50 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 22:31 ` Frans Pop
2010-02-04 22:53 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 7:58 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 21:34 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-10 20:54 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 21:09 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-10 21:34 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 22:25 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-11 10:16 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-11 21:17 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 9:50 ` Jiri Kosina
2010-02-04 21:39 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-05 7:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-10 3:10 ` David Rientjes
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