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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Vedran Furac <vedran.furac@gmail.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	minchan.kim@gmail.com, Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] oom-kill: add lowmem usage aware oom kill handling
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 02:33:55 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002010228360.12764@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B65E82D.5010408@gmail.com>

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, Vedran Furac wrote:

> > You snipped the code segment where I demonstrated that the selected task 
> > for oom kill is not necessarily the one chosen to die: if there is a child 
> > with disjoint memory that is killable, it will be selected instead.  If 
> > Xorg or sshd is being chosen for kill, then you should investigate why 
> > that is, but there is nothing random about how the oom killer chooses 
> > tasks to kill.
> 
> I know that it isn't random, but it sure looks like that to the end user
> and I use it to emphasize the problem. And about me investigating, that
> simply not possible as I am not a kernel hacker who understands the code
> beyond the syntax level. I can only point to the problem in hope that
> someone will fix it.
> 

Disregarding the opportunity that userspace has to influence the oom 
killer's selection for a moment, it really tends to favor killing tasks 
that are the largest in size.  Tasks that typically get the highest 
badness score are those that have the highest mm->total_vm, it's that 
simple.  There are definitely cornercases where the first generation 
children have a strong influence, but they are often killed either as a 
result of themselves being a thread group leader with seperate memory from 
the parent or as the result of the oom killer killing a task with seperate 
memory before the selected task.  It's completely natural for the oom 
killer to select bash, for example, when in actuality it will kill a 
memory leaker that has a high badness score as a result of the logic in 
oom_kill_process().

If you have specific logs that you'd like to show, please enable 
/proc/sys/vm/oom_dump_tasks and respond with them in another message with 
that data inline.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-01 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-29 16:11 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-29 16:21 ` Alan Cox
2010-01-29 16:25   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-29 16:30     ` Alan Cox
2010-01-29 16:41       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-29 21:07         ` David Rientjes
2010-01-30 12:46           ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-30 22:53             ` David Rientjes
2010-01-31 20:29               ` Vedran Furač
2010-02-01 10:33                 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2010-02-01  0:01           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-01 10:28             ` David Rientjes
2010-01-29 21:11     ` David Rientjes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-21  5:59 [PATCH] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-25  6:15   ` [PATCH v3] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-26 23:12     ` Andrew Morton
2010-01-26 23:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27  0:19         ` Andrew Morton
2010-01-27  0:58           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27 23:56             ` David Rientjes
2010-01-28  0:16             ` Alan Cox
2010-01-28  0:26               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-28  0:59               ` David Rientjes
2010-01-29  0:25               ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-29  0:35                 ` Alan Cox
2010-01-29  0:57                   ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-29 11:03                     ` Alan Cox
2010-01-30 12:33                       ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-30 12:59                         ` Alan Cox
2010-01-30 17:30                           ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-30 17:45                             ` Alan Cox
2010-01-30 18:17                               ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-27 23:46         ` David Rientjes
2010-01-26 23:16     ` Andrew Morton
2010-01-26 23:44       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27 23:40     ` David Rientjes

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