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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Kill PF_MEMALLOC abuse
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:36:38 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911170034500.22639@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091117172802.3DF4.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:

> > I agree in principle with removing non-VM users of PF_MEMALLOC, but I 
> > think it should be left to the individual subsystem maintainers to apply 
> > or ack since the allocations may depend on the __GFP_NORETRY | ~__GFP_WAIT 
> > behavior of PF_MEMALLOC.  This could be potentially dangerous for a 
> > PF_MEMALLOC user if allocations made by the kthread, for example, should 
> > never retry for orders smaller than PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER or block on 
> > direct reclaim.
> 
> if there is so such reason. we might need to implement another MM trick.
> but keeping this strage usage is not a option. All memory freeing activity
> (e.g. page out, task killing) need some memory. we need to protect its
> emergency memory. otherwise linux reliability decrease dramatically when
> the system face to memory stress.
> 

Right, that's why I agree with trying to remove non-VM use of PF_MEMALLOC, 
but I think this patchset needs to go through the individual subsystem 
maintainers so they can ensure the conversion doesn't cause undesirable 
results if their kthreads' memory allocations depend on the __GFP_NORETRY 
behavior that PF_MEMALLOC ensures.  Otherwise it looks good.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-17  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-17  7:16 KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  7:17 ` [PATCH 1/7] dm: use __GFP_HIGH instead PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 13:15   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2009-11-18  6:17     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  7:17 ` [PATCH 2/7] mmc: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:29   ` Alan Cox
2009-11-17 10:32     ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17 10:38       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-17 11:58     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:51       ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17 20:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18  0:01           ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-18  9:56             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 10:31               ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-18 10:54                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 11:15                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17  7:18 ` [PATCH 3/7] mtd: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  7:19 ` [PATCH 4/7] nandsim: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-23 15:00   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-23 20:01     ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-24 10:46       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-24 11:56         ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-25  0:42           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-25  7:13             ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-25  7:18               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  7:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] Revert "Intel IOMMU: Avoid memory allocation failures in dma map api calls" KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  7:22 ` [PATCH 6/7] cifs: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  7:32   ` [PATCH] Mark cifs mailing list as "moderated as non-subscribers" KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:47   ` [PATCH 6/7] cifs: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC Jeff Layton
2009-11-17 16:40     ` Steve French
2009-11-18  6:31       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  7:23 ` [PATCH 7/7] xfs: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 22:11   ` Dave Chinner
2009-11-18  8:56     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-18 22:16       ` Dave Chinner
2009-11-17  8:07 ` [PATCH 0/7] Kill PF_MEMALLOC abuse David Rientjes
2009-11-17  8:33   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  8:36     ` David Rientjes [this message]
2009-11-17 20:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18  5:55       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-11-17 10:24   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-11-17 12:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:47         ` Christoph Hellwig

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