From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Kill PF_MEMALLOC abuse
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:07:44 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911170004380.1564@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091117161551.3DD4.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>
> PF_MEMALLOC have following effects.
> (1) Ignore zone watermark
> (2) Don't call reclaim although allocation failure, instead return ENOMEM
> (3) Don't invoke OOM Killer
> (4) Don't retry internally in page alloc
>
> Some subsystem paid attention (1) only, and start to use PF_MEMALLOC abuse.
> But, the fact is, PF_MEMALLOC is the promise of "I have lots freeable memory.
> if I allocate few memory, I can return more much meory to the system!".
> Non MM subsystem must not use PF_MEMALLOC. Memory reclaim
> need few memory, anyone must not prevent it. Otherwise the system cause
> mysterious hang-up and/or OOM Killer invokation.
>
> if many subsystem will be able to use emergency memory without any
> usage rule, it isn't for emergency. it can become empty easily.
>
> Plus, characteristics (2)-(4) mean PF_MEMALLOC don't fit to general
> high priority memory allocation.
>
> Thus, We kill all PF_MEMALLOC usage in no MM subsystem.
>
I agree in principle with removing non-VM users of PF_MEMALLOC, but I
think it should be left to the individual subsystem maintainers to apply
or ack since the allocations may depend on the __GFP_NORETRY | ~__GFP_WAIT
behavior of PF_MEMALLOC. This could be potentially dangerous for a
PF_MEMALLOC user if allocations made by the kthread, for example, should
never retry for orders smaller than PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER or block on
direct reclaim.
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-17 7:16 KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:17 ` [PATCH 1/7] dm: use __GFP_HIGH instead PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 13:15 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2009-11-18 6:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:17 ` [PATCH 2/7] mmc: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:29 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-17 10:32 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17 10:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-17 11:58 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:51 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17 20:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 0:01 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-18 9:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 10:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-18 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 11:15 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17 7:18 ` [PATCH 3/7] mtd: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:19 ` [PATCH 4/7] nandsim: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-23 15:00 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-23 20:01 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-24 10:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-24 11:56 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-25 0:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-25 7:13 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-25 7:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] Revert "Intel IOMMU: Avoid memory allocation failures in dma map api calls" KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:22 ` [PATCH 6/7] cifs: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:32 ` [PATCH] Mark cifs mailing list as "moderated as non-subscribers" KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:47 ` [PATCH 6/7] cifs: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC Jeff Layton
2009-11-17 16:40 ` Steve French
2009-11-18 6:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:23 ` [PATCH 7/7] xfs: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 22:11 ` Dave Chinner
2009-11-18 8:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-18 22:16 ` Dave Chinner
2009-11-17 8:07 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2009-11-17 8:33 ` [PATCH 0/7] Kill PF_MEMALLOC abuse KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 8:36 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-17 20:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 5:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-11-17 10:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-11-17 12:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
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