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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	stable@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Sven Geggus <lists@fuchsschwanzdomain.de>,
	Karol Lewandowski <karol.k.lewandowski@gmail.com>,
	Tobias Oetiker <tobi@oetiker.ch>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
	kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:46:48 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911031739380.1187@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0911031208150.21943@V090114053VZO-1>

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Christoph Lameter wrote:

> If you dont know what "realtime" is then we cannot really implement
> "realtime" behavior in the page allocator.
> 

It's not intended to implement realtime behavior!

This is a convenience given to rt_task() to reduce latency when possible 
by avoiding direct reclaim and allowing background reclaim to bring us 
back over the low watermark.

That's been in the page allocator for over four years and is not intended 
to implement realtime behavior.  These tasks do not rely on memory 
reserves being available.

Is it really hard to believe that tasks with such high priorities are 
given an exemption in the page allocator so that we reclaim in the 
background instead of directly?

I hope we can move this to another thread if people would like to remove 
this exemption completely instead of talking about this trivial fix, which 
I doubt there's any objection to.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-04  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-27 13:40 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, partial fix V3 Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] page allocator: Always wake kswapd when restarting an allocation attempt after direct reclaim failed Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <1256650833-15516-3-git-send-email-mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 20:09     ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-27 21:12       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 18:40         ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 19:51           ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 20:11             ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 21:19               ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 22:29                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 22:55                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-01  7:35                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-01 12:37                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-01 14:44                       ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-01 19:32                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-02 16:38                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-10-31 23:59               ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-02 16:42                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-02 20:53                   ` David Rientjes
2009-11-03 17:10                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-04  1:46                       ` David Rientjes [this message]
2009-11-04  9:01                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-09 10:11                           ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 10:24       ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 18:18   ` Rik van Riel
2009-10-27 20:19   ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-28  3:54     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-28 10:29     ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 19:47       ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-02 16:05         ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-02 17:32           ` Frans Pop
2009-11-02 17:38             ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-02 20:36               ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-03 22:01               ` Frans Pop
2009-11-03 22:08                 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04  0:01                   ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  1:18                     ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04  2:05                       ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  2:08                         ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04 15:48                         ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04 20:57                           ` Frans Pop
2009-11-05 16:48                             ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit (data on latencies available) Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 11:36                               ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04  2:08                       ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 13:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, partial fix V3 Karol Lewandowski

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