From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
vedran.furac@gmail.com,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] oom_kill: use rss value instead of vm size for badness
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:31:59 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910290125390.11476@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091029100042.973328d3.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
>
> It's reported that OOM-Killer kills Gnone/KDE at first...
> And yes, we can reproduce it easily.
>
> Now, oom-killer uses mm->total_vm as its base value. But in recent
> applications, there are a big gap between VM size and RSS size.
> Because
> - Applications attaches much dynamic libraries. (Gnome, KDE, etc...)
> - Applications may alloc big VM area but use small part of them.
> (Java, and multi-threaded applications has this tendency because
> of default-size of stack.)
>
> I think using mm->total_vm as score for oom-kill is not good.
> By the same reason, overcommit memory can't work as expected.
> (In other words, if we depends on total_vm, using overcommit more positive
> is a good choice.)
>
> This patch uses mm->anon_rss/file_rss as base value for calculating badness.
>
> Following is changes to OOM score(badness) on an environment with 1.6G memory
> plus memory-eater(500M & 1G).
>
> Top 10 of badness score. (The highest one is the first candidate to be killed)
> Before
> badness program
> 91228 gnome-settings-
> 94210 clock-applet
> 103202 mixer_applet2
> 106563 tomboy
> 112947 gnome-terminal
> 128944 mmap <----------- 500M malloc
> 129332 nautilus
> 215476 bash <----------- parent of 2 mallocs.
> 256944 mmap <----------- 1G malloc
> 423586 gnome-session
>
> After
> badness
> 1911 mixer_applet2
> 1955 clock-applet
> 1986 xinit
> 1989 gnome-session
> 2293 nautilus
> 2955 gnome-terminal
> 4113 tomboy
> 104163 mmap <----------- 500M malloc.
> 168577 bash <----------- parent of 2 mallocs
> 232375 mmap <----------- 1G malloc
>
> seems good for me. Maybe we can tweak this patch more,
> but this one will be a good one as a start point.
>
This appears to actually prefer X more than total_vm in Vedran's test
case. He cited http://pastebin.com/f3f9674a0 in
http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125678557002888.
There are 12 ooms in this log, which has /proc/sys/vm/oom_dump_tasks
enabled. It shows the difference between the top total_vm candidates vs.
the top rss candidates.
total_vm
708945 test
195695 krunner
168881 plasma-desktop
130567 ktorrent
127081 knotify4
125881 icedove-bin
123036 akregator
118641 kded4
rss
707878 test
42201 Xorg
13300 icedove-bin
10209 ktorrent
9277 akregator
8878 plasma-desktop
7546 krunner
4532 mysqld
This patch would pick the memory hogging task, "test", first everytime
just like the current implementation does. It would then prefer Xorg,
icedove-bin, and ktorrent next as a starting point.
Admittedly, there are other heuristics that the oom killer uses to create
a badness score. But since this patch is only changing the baseline from
mm->total_vm to get_mm_rss(mm), its behavior in this test case do not
match the patch description.
The vast majority of the other ooms have identical top 8 candidates:
total_vm
673222 test
195695 krunner
168881 plasma-desktop
130567 ktorrent
127081 knotify4
125881 icedove-bin
123036 akregator
121869 firefox-bin
rss
672271 test
42192 Xorg
30763 firefox-bin
13292 icedove-bin
10208 ktorrent
9260 akregator
8859 plasma-desktop
7528 krunner
firefox-bin seems much more preferred in this case than total_vm, but Xorg
still ranks very high with this patch compared to the current
implementation.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-29 8:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-28 8:58 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 9:15 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 11:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 1:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 2:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-29 8:31 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2009-10-29 8:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 9:01 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 9:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 9:44 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 23:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-01 13:29 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 10:42 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 12:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 19:55 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-03 23:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-07 19:16 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-25 12:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-25 21:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-27 18:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-30 23:09 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 4:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01 22:20 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-02 0:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-03 23:25 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-04 0:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26 0:10 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-26 1:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-27 1:56 ` Vedran Furač
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