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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	vedran.furac@gmail.com,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] oom_kill: use rss value instead of vm size for badness
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:31:59 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910290125390.11476@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091029100042.973328d3.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:

> From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> 
> It's reported that OOM-Killer kills Gnone/KDE at first...
> And yes, we can reproduce it easily.
> 
> Now, oom-killer uses mm->total_vm as its base value. But in recent
> applications, there are a big gap between VM size and RSS size.
> Because
>   - Applications attaches much dynamic libraries. (Gnome, KDE, etc...)
>   - Applications may alloc big VM area but use small part of them.
>     (Java, and multi-threaded applications has this tendency because
>      of default-size of stack.)
> 
> I think using mm->total_vm as score for oom-kill is not good.
> By the same reason, overcommit memory can't work as expected.
> (In other words, if we depends on total_vm, using overcommit more positive
>  is a good choice.)
> 
> This patch uses mm->anon_rss/file_rss as base value for calculating badness.
> 
> Following is changes to OOM score(badness) on an environment with 1.6G memory
> plus memory-eater(500M & 1G).
> 
> Top 10 of badness score. (The highest one is the first candidate to be killed)
> Before
> badness program
> 91228	gnome-settings-
> 94210	clock-applet
> 103202	mixer_applet2
> 106563	tomboy
> 112947	gnome-terminal
> 128944	mmap              <----------- 500M malloc
> 129332	nautilus
> 215476	bash              <----------- parent of 2 mallocs.
> 256944	mmap              <----------- 1G malloc
> 423586	gnome-session
> 
> After
> badness 
> 1911	mixer_applet2
> 1955	clock-applet
> 1986	xinit
> 1989	gnome-session
> 2293	nautilus
> 2955	gnome-terminal
> 4113	tomboy
> 104163	mmap             <----------- 500M malloc.
> 168577	bash             <----------- parent of 2 mallocs
> 232375	mmap             <----------- 1G malloc
> 
> seems good for me. Maybe we can tweak this patch more,
> but this one will be a good one as a start point.
> 

This appears to actually prefer X more than total_vm in Vedran's test 
case.  He cited http://pastebin.com/f3f9674a0 in 
http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=125678557002888.

There are 12 ooms in this log, which has /proc/sys/vm/oom_dump_tasks 
enabled.  It shows the difference between the top total_vm candidates vs. 
the top rss candidates.

total_vm
708945 test
195695 krunner
168881 plasma-desktop
130567 ktorrent
127081 knotify4
125881 icedove-bin
123036 akregator
118641 kded4

rss
707878 test
42201 Xorg
13300 icedove-bin
10209 ktorrent
9277 akregator
8878 plasma-desktop
7546 krunner
4532 mysqld

This patch would pick the memory hogging task, "test", first everytime 
just like the current implementation does.  It would then prefer Xorg, 
icedove-bin, and ktorrent next as a starting point.

Admittedly, there are other heuristics that the oom killer uses to create 
a badness score.  But since this patch is only changing the baseline from 
mm->total_vm to get_mm_rss(mm), its behavior in this test case do not 
match the patch description.

The vast majority of the other ooms have identical top 8 candidates:

total_vm
673222 test
195695 krunner
168881 plasma-desktop
130567 ktorrent
127081 knotify4
125881 icedove-bin
123036 akregator
121869 firefox-bin

rss
672271 test
42192 Xorg
30763 firefox-bin
13292 icedove-bin
10208 ktorrent
9260 akregator
8859 plasma-desktop
7528 krunner

firefox-bin seems much more preferred in this case than total_vm, but Xorg 
still ranks very high with this patch compared to the current 
implementation.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-29  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28  8:58 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  9:15 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 11:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  1:00     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  2:31       ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-29  8:31       ` David Rientjes [this message]
2009-10-29  8:46         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  9:01           ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29  9:16             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  9:44               ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 23:41                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-01 13:29         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 10:42           ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 12:35             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 19:55               ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-03 23:09                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-07 19:16                   ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-25 12:44         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-25 21:39           ` David Rientjes
2009-11-27 18:26             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-30 23:09               ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01  4:43                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01 22:20                   ` David Rientjes
2009-12-02  0:35                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-03 23:25                       ` David Rientjes
2009-12-04  0:44                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  0:10           ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-26  1:32             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-27  1:56               ` Vedran Furač

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