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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	vedran.furac@gmail.com,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] oom_kill: use rss value instead of vm size for badness
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:15:45 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910280206430.7122@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091028175846.49a1d29c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:

> From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> 
> It's reported that OOM-Killer kills Gnone/KDE at first...
> And yes, we can reproduce it easily.
> 
> Now, oom-killer uses mm->total_vm as its base value. But in recent
> applications, there are a big gap between VM size and RSS size.
> Because
>   - Applications attaches much dynamic libraries. (Gnome, KDE, etc...)
>   - Applications may alloc big VM area but use small part of them.
>     (Java, and multi-threaded applications has this tendency because
>      of default-size of stack.)
> 
> I think using mm->total_vm as score for oom-kill is not good.
> By the same reason, overcommit memory can't work as expected.
> (In other words, if we depends on total_vm, using overcommit more positive
>  is a good choice.)
> 
> This patch uses mm->anon_rss/file_rss as base value for calculating badness.
> 

How does this affect the ability of the user to tune the badness score of 
individual threads?  It seems like there will now only be two polarizing 
options: the equivalent of an oom_adj value of +15 or -17.  It is now 
heavily dependent on the rss which may be unclear at the time of oom and 
very dynamic.

I think a longer-term solution may rely more on the difference in 
get_mm_hiwater_rss() and get_mm_rss() instead to know the difference 
between what is resident in RAM at the time of oom compared to what has 
been swaped.  Using this with get_mm_hiwater_vm() would produce a nice 
picture for the pattern of each task's memory consumption.

> Following is changes to OOM score(badness) on an environment with 1.6G memory
> plus memory-eater(500M & 1G).
> 
> Top 10 of badness score. (The highest one is the first candidate to be killed)
> Before
> badness program
> 91228	gnome-settings-
> 94210	clock-applet
> 103202	mixer_applet2
> 106563	tomboy
> 112947	gnome-terminal
> 128944	mmap              <----------- 500M malloc
> 129332	nautilus
> 215476	bash              <----------- parent of 2 mallocs.
> 256944	mmap              <----------- 1G malloc
> 423586	gnome-session
> 
> After
> badness 
> 1911	mixer_applet2
> 1955	clock-applet
> 1986	xinit
> 1989	gnome-session
> 2293	nautilus
> 2955	gnome-terminal
> 4113	tomboy
> 104163	mmap             <----------- 500M malloc.
> 168577	bash             <----------- parent of 2 mallocs
> 232375	mmap             <----------- 1G malloc
> 
> seems good for me. 
> 
> Signed-off-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> ---
>  mm/oom_kill.c |   10 +++++++---
>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> Index: mm-test-kernel/mm/oom_kill.c
> ===================================================================
> --- mm-test-kernel.orig/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ mm-test-kernel/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ unsigned long badness(struct task_struct
>  	/*
>  	 * The memory size of the process is the basis for the badness.
>  	 */
> -	points = mm->total_vm;
> +	points = get_mm_counter(mm, anon_rss) + get_mm_counter(mm, file_rss);
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * After this unlock we can no longer dereference local variable `mm'
> @@ -116,8 +116,12 @@ unsigned long badness(struct task_struct
>  	 */
>  	list_for_each_entry(child, &p->children, sibling) {
>  		task_lock(child);
> -		if (child->mm != mm && child->mm)
> -			points += child->mm->total_vm/2 + 1;
> +		if (child->mm != mm && child->mm) {
> +			unsigned long cpoints;
> +			cpoints = get_mm_counter(child->mm, anon_rss);
> +				  + get_mm_counter(child->mm, file_rss);

That shouldn't compile.

> +			points += cpoints/2 + 1;
> +		}
>  		task_unlock(child);
>  	}
>  

This can all be simplified by just using get_mm_rss(mm) and 
get_mm_rss(child->mm).

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-28  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28  8:58 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  9:15 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2009-10-28 11:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  1:00     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  2:31       ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-29  8:31       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29  8:46         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  9:01           ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29  9:16             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  9:44               ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 23:41                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-01 13:29         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 10:42           ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 12:35             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 19:55               ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-03 23:09                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-07 19:16                   ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-25 12:44         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-25 21:39           ` David Rientjes
2009-11-27 18:26             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-30 23:09               ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01  4:43                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01 22:20                   ` David Rientjes
2009-12-02  0:35                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-03 23:25                       ` David Rientjes
2009-12-04  0:44                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  0:10           ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-26  1:32             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-27  1:56               ` Vedran Furač

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