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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm v2] mm: introduce oom_adj_child
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:18:42 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0907311212240.22732@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f54310137837631f2526d4e335287fc.squirrel@webmail-b.css.fujitsu.com>

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:

> > Can you help think of any names that start with oom_adj_* and are
> > relatively short?  I'd happily ack it.
> >
> There have been traditional name "effective" as uid and euid.
> 
>  then,  per thread oom_adj as oom_adj
>         per proc   oom_adj as effective_oom_adj
> 
> is an natural way as Unix, I think.
> 

I don't think effective_oom_adj is a suitable name replacement for 
oom_adj_child since it doesn't imply that the value is a no-op for the 
thread itself and only serves a purpose when an mm is initialized for a 
child.

> > It livelocks if a thread is chosen and passed to oom_kill_task() while
> > another per-thread oom_adj value is OOM_DISABLE for a thread sharing the
> > same memory.
> >
> I say "why don't modify buggy selection logic?"
> 
> Why we have to scan all threads ?
> As fs/proc/readdir does, you can scan only "process group leader".
> 
> per-thread scan itself is buggy because now we have per-process
> effective-oom-adj.
> 

Without my patches to change oom_adj from task_struct to mm_struct, you'd 
need to scan all tasks and not just the tgids because their oom_adj values 
can differ amongst threads in the same thread group.  So while it may now 
be possible to shorten the scan as a result of my approach, it isn't a 
solution itself to the problem.

> > How else do you propose the oom killer use oom_adj values on a per-thread
> > basis without considering other threads sharing the same memory?
> As I wrote.
>    per-process(signal struct) or per-thread oom_adj and add
>    mm->effecitve_oom_adj
> 
> task scanning isn't necessary to do per-thread scan and you can scan
> only process-group-leader. What's bad ?
> If oom_score is problem, plz fix it to show effective_oom_score.
> 

When only using (and showing) mm->effective_oom_adj for a task, userspace 
will not be able to adjust /proc/pid/oom_score with /proc/pid/oom_adj 
as Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt says you can for a thread unless it 
exceeds effective_oom_adj.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-31 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-29  4:27 David Rientjes
2009-07-29 23:13 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-29 23:25   ` Paul Menage
2009-07-30  2:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-30  7:06   ` David Rientjes
2009-07-31  6:47     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-31  9:31       ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03 11:58         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-03 12:12           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-30  9:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-30  9:31   ` David Rientjes
2009-07-30 10:02     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-30 19:05       ` David Rientjes
2009-07-31  0:33         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-31  6:50           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-31 19:38             ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03 12:16               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-31  9:36           ` David Rientjes
2009-07-31 10:49             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-31 19:18               ` David Rientjes [this message]
2009-08-01  1:10                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-01 20:26                   ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03  1:42                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-03  7:59                       ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03  8:02                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-03  8:08                           ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03  8:45                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-03  8:55                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-03 12:19                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-03 12:32                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-03 12:21                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-03 16:17                     ` Paul Menage

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