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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] SLQB slab allocator
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:33:14 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902031217390.17910@qirst.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902031253.28078.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Nick Piggin wrote:

> Quite obviously it should. Behaviour of a slab allocation on behalf of
> some task constrained within a given node should not depend on the task
> which has previously run on this CPU and made some allocations. Surely
> you can see this behaviour is not nice.

If you want cache hot objects then its better to use what a prior task
has used. This opportunistic use is only done if the task is not asking
for memory from a specifc node. There is another tradeoff here.

SLABs method there is to ignore all caching advantages even if the task
did not ask for memory from a specific node. So it gets cache cold objects
and if the node to allow from is remote then it always must use the slow
path.

> > Which have similar issues since memory policy application is depending on
> > a task policy and on memory migration that has been applied to an address
> > range.
>
> What similar issues? If a task ask to have slab allocations constrained
> to node 0, then SLUB hands out objects from other nodes, then that's bad.

Of course. A task can ask to have allocations from node 0 and it will get
the object from node 0. But if the task does not care to ask for data
from a specific node then it can be satisfied from the cpu slab which
contains cache hot objects.

> > > But that is wrong. The lists obviously have high water marks that
> > > get trimmed down. Periodic trimming as I keep saying basically is
> > > alrady so infrequent that it is irrelevant (millions of objects
> > > per cpu can be allocated anyway between existing trimming interval)
> >
> > Trimming through water marks and allocating memory from the page allocator
> > is going to be very frequent if you continually allocate on one processor
> > and free on another.
>
> Um yes, that's the point. But you previously claimed that it would just
> grow unconstrained. Which is obviously wrong. So I don't understand what
> your point is.

It will grow unconstrained if you elect to defer queue processing. That
was what we discussed.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-14  9:04 Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 10:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-14 11:47   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 13:44     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-14 14:22       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 14:45         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-14 15:09           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 15:22             ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 15:30               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-14 15:59                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 18:40                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-15  6:19                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-15 20:47                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-16  3:43                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-16 21:25                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-19  6:18                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-22  0:13                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-22  9:27                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-22  9:30                                   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-01-22  9:33                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23 15:32                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23 15:37                                         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23 15:42                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23 15:32                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23  4:09                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 15:41                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23 15:53                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-26 17:28                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03  1:53                                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-03 17:33                                           ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2009-02-03 18:42                                             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-03 18:47                                               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-04  4:22                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04 20:09                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-05  3:18                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04 20:10                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-05  3:14                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04  4:07                                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 18:01             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-15  6:03               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-15 20:05                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-16  3:19                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-16 21:07                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-19  5:47                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-22  0:19                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23  4:17                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 15:52                             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-01-23 16:10                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 17:09                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-26 17:46                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03  1:42                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-26 17:34                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03  1:48                                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 14:30 Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 14:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 15:17   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 16:56   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 17:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-23  3:31       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23  6:14       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 12:56         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 17:59 ` Joe Perches
2009-01-23  3:35   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23  4:00     ` Joe Perches
2009-01-21 18:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-22 10:01   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-22 12:47     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-23 14:23       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-23 14:30         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-02  3:38         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-02  9:00           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-02 15:00             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-03  1:34               ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-03  7:29             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-03 12:18               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-04  2:21                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-05 19:04                   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-06  0:47                     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-06  8:57                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-06 12:33                       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-10  8:56                         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-02 11:50           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-23  3:55   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 13:57     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-22  8:45 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-01-23  3:57   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23  9:00   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 13:34     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-01-23 13:44       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23  9:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 10:13   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23 11:25   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 11:57     ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 13:18       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 14:04         ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 14:27           ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 15:06             ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 15:15               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-23 12:55   ` Nick Piggin

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