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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	 Soheil Hassas Yeganeh <soheil@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	 netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: multi-memcg percpu charge cache
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:59:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agazegt7js4jrbbng2di33xggfswxgrdrojoiqh4vaqxxmdidj@zmyzkgfuhykl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250423153046.54d135f2@kernel.org>

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 03:30:46PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:16:56 -0700 Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > > -	if (!local_trylock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, flags)) {
> > > > +	if (nr_pages > MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH ||
> > > > +	    !local_trylock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, flags)) {
> > > >  		/*
> > > > -		 * In case of unlikely failure to lock percpu stock_lock
> > > > -		 * uncharge memcg directly.
> > > > +		 * In case of larger than batch refill or unlikely failure to
> > > > +		 * lock the percpu stock_lock, uncharge memcg directly.
> > > >  		 */  
> > > 
> > > We're bypassing the cache for > CHARGE_BATCH because the u8 math 
> > > may overflow? Could be useful to refocus the comment on the 'why'
> > 
> > We actually never put more than MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH in the cache and thus
> > we can use u8 as type here. Though we may increase the batch size in
> > future, so I should put a BUILD_BUG_ON somewhere here.
> 
> No idea if this matters enough to deserve its own commit but basically
> I was wondering if that behavior change is a separate optimization.
> 
> Previously we'd check if the cache was for the releasing cgroup and sum
> was over BATCH - drain its stock completely. Now we bypass looking at
> the cache if nr_pages > BATCH so the cgroup may retain some stock.

Yes indeed there is a little bit behavior change as you have explained.
The older behavior (fully drain if nr_pages > BATCH) might be due to
single per-cpu memcg cache limitation and in my opinion is problematic
in some scenarios. If you see commit 5387c90490f7 ("mm/memcg: improve
refill_obj_stock() performance"), a very similar behavior for objcg
cache was having a performance impact and was optimized by only allowing
the drain for some code paths. With multi-memcg support, I think we
don't need to worry about it. Multi-objcg per-cpu cache is also on my
TODO list.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-23 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-16 18:02 Shakeel Butt
2025-04-23  1:10 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-23 22:16   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-23 22:30     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-23 22:59       ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2025-04-23 23:14 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-25 20:18 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-29  9:40   ` Hugh Dickins
2025-04-29 14:50     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-30 10:05   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-30 15:16     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-29 12:13 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-29 18:43   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-30  6:48     ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-30  9:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-30 15:05   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-30 15:32 ` Shakeel Butt

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