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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	hillf.zj@alibaba-inc.com, minchan@kernel.org,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, ying.huang@intel.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	timmurray@google.com, tkjos@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: terminate shrink_slab loop if signal is pending
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 23:34:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aea5a298-c1a8-3967-099e-91d6bd894b29@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171207083436.GC20234@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 2017/12/07 17:34, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 06-12-17 11:20:26, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>> Slab shrinkers can be quite time consuming and when signal
>> is pending they can delay handling of the signal. If fatal
>> signal is pending there is no point in shrinking that process
>> since it will be killed anyway. This change checks for pending
>> fatal signals inside shrink_slab loop and if one is detected
>> terminates this loop early.
> 
> This is not enough. You would have to make sure the direct reclaim will
> bail out immeditally which is not at all that simple. We do check fatal
> signals in throttle_direct_reclaim and conditionally in shrink_inactive_list
> so even if you bail out from shrinkers we could still finish the full
> reclaim cycle.
> 
> Besides that shrinkers shouldn't really take very long so this looks
> like it papers over a real bug somewhere else. I am not saying the patch
> is wrong but it would deserve much more details to judge wether this is
> the right way to go for your particular problem.
> 

I wish that normal threads do not invoke direct reclaim operation.
Only dedicated kernel threads (such as filesystem's writeback) invoke
direct reclaim operation. Then, we can implement __GFP_KILLABLE for
normal threads, and hopefully get rid of distinction between GFP_NOIO/
GFP_NOFS/GFP_KERNEL because reclaim (and locking) dependency becomes
simpler.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-07 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-06 19:20 Suren Baghdasaryan
2017-12-06 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2017-12-07  1:27   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2017-12-07  8:34 ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-07 14:34   ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2017-12-08  0:44   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2017-12-08  4:37     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2017-12-08  4:40     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2017-12-07  9:52 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-07  9:58   ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-07 15:46     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2017-12-07 16:25       ` Michal Hocko

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