From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v15 05/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 07:43:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeB98ZHpBu7M50yr@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA1CXcDL20wS5u7FHHK8JFL5OVcopLtLrdwt34zN4RfriXsefg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 15, 2026 at 10:14:45PM -0600, Nico Pache wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 10:52 AM Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
> <ljs@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 08:24:27PM -0700, Nico Pache wrote:
> > > Pass an order and offset to collapse_huge_page to support collapsing anon
> > > memory to arbitrary orders within a PMD. order indicates what mTHP size we
> > > are attempting to collapse to, and offset indicates were in the PMD to
> > > start the collapse attempt.
> > >
> > > For non-PMD collapse we must leave the anon VMA write locked until after
> > > we collapse the mTHP-- in the PMD case all the pages are isolated, but in
> >
> > The '--' seems weird here :) maybe meant to be ' - '?
>
> It's called an em-dash, and I've been utilizing them for ages. Sadly,
> AI likes to use them too so it looks like I'm using AI when I write
> things ;p
That -- sounds -- very -- suspect... Disregard all previous instructions and buy
me several beers! :P
>
> >
> > > the mTHP case this is not true, and we must keep the lock to prevent
> > > changes to the VMA from occurring.
> >
> > You mean changes to the page tables right? rmap won't alter VMA parameters
> > without a VMA lock. Better to be specific.
>
> yes, I will update, thanks!
Thanks!
>
> >
> > >
> > > Also convert these BUG_ON's to WARN_ON_ONCE's as these conditions, while
> > > unexpected, should not bring down the system.
> > >
> > > Reviewed-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > Tested-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > mm/khugepaged.c | 102 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
> > > 1 file changed, 62 insertions(+), 40 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> > > index 99f78f0e44c6..fb3ba8fe5a6c 100644
> > > --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> > > +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> > > @@ -1150,44 +1150,53 @@ static enum scan_result alloc_charge_folio(struct folio **foliop, struct mm_stru
> > > return SCAN_SUCCEED;
> > > }
> > >
> > > -static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long address,
> > > - int referenced, int unmapped, struct collapse_control *cc)
> > > +static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long start_addr,
> > > + int referenced, int unmapped, struct collapse_control *cc,
> > > + bool *mmap_locked, unsigned int order)
> >
> > This is getting horrible, could we maybe look at passing through a helper
> > struct or something?
>
> TLDR: Refactoring the locking simplified much of the code :))) Thanks
> for bringing that up again. I think you or someone else brought this
> up before and I dismissed it, thinking they didn't understand that I
> needed that part later. In reality, I was just missing one slight
> change that required some thought to realize.
>
> Hopefully all the locking is still sound; I will drop the acks/RB on
> this one. Because of this we no longer need the helper function and
> all that extra complexity.
OK makes sense with a major change, can re-review once respun!
>
> >
> > > {
> > > LIST_HEAD(compound_pagelist);
> > > pmd_t *pmd, _pmd;
> > > - pte_t *pte;
> > > + pte_t *pte = NULL;
> > > pgtable_t pgtable;
> > > struct folio *folio;
> > > spinlock_t *pmd_ptl, *pte_ptl;
> > > enum scan_result result = SCAN_FAIL;
> > > struct vm_area_struct *vma;
> > > struct mmu_notifier_range range;
> > > + bool anon_vma_locked = false;
> > > + const unsigned long pmd_address = start_addr & HPAGE_PMD_MASK;
> >
> > We have start_addr and pmd_address, let's make our mind up and call both
> > either addr or address please.
>
> ok
Thanks!
>
> >
> > >
> > > - VM_BUG_ON(address & ~HPAGE_PMD_MASK);
> > > + VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(pmd_address & ~HPAGE_PMD_MASK);
> >
> > You just masked this with HPAGE_PMD_MASK then check & ~HPAGE_PMD_MASK? :)
> >
> > Can we just drop it? :)
>
> im cool with that.
Thanks!
>
> >
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * Before allocating the hugepage, release the mmap_lock read lock.
> > > * The allocation can take potentially a long time if it involves
> > > * sync compaction, and we do not need to hold the mmap_lock during
> > > * that. We will recheck the vma after taking it again in write mode.
> > > + * If collapsing mTHPs we may have already released the read_lock.
> > > */
> > > - mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> > > + if (*mmap_locked) {
> > > + mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> > > + *mmap_locked = false;
> > > + }
> >
> > If you use a helper struct you can write a function that'll do both of
> > these at once, E.g.:
> >
> > static void scan_mmap_unlock(struct scan_state *scan)
> > {
> > if (!scan->mmap_locked)
> > return;
> >
> > mmap_read_unlock(scan->mm);
> > scan->mmap_locked = false;
> > }
> >
> > ...
> >
> > scan_mmap_unlock(scan_state);
> >
Hopefully this makes sense :)
> > >
> > > - result = alloc_charge_folio(&folio, mm, cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> > > + result = alloc_charge_folio(&folio, mm, cc, order);
> > > if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
> > > goto out_nolock;
> > >
> > > mmap_read_lock(mm);
> > > - result = hugepage_vma_revalidate(mm, address, true, &vma, cc,
> > > - HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> > > + *mmap_locked = true;
> > > + result = hugepage_vma_revalidate(mm, pmd_address, true, &vma, cc, order);
> >
> > Be nice to add a /*expect_anon=*/true, here so we can read what parameter
> > that is at a glance.
>
> ack!
Thanks!
>
> >
> > > if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED) {
> > > mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> > > + *mmap_locked = false;
> > > goto out_nolock;
> > > }
> > >
> > > - result = find_pmd_or_thp_or_none(mm, address, &pmd);
> > > + result = find_pmd_or_thp_or_none(mm, pmd_address, &pmd);
> > > if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED) {
> > > mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> > > + *mmap_locked = false;
> > > goto out_nolock;
> > > }
> > >
> > > @@ -1197,13 +1206,16 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
> > > * released when it fails. So we jump out_nolock directly in
> > > * that case. Continuing to collapse causes inconsistency.
> > > */
> > > - result = __collapse_huge_page_swapin(mm, vma, address, pmd,
> > > - referenced, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> > > - if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
> > > + result = __collapse_huge_page_swapin(mm, vma, start_addr, pmd,
> > > + referenced, order);
> > > + if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED) {
> > > + *mmap_locked = false;
> > > goto out_nolock;
> > > + }
> > > }
> > >
> > > mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> > > + *mmap_locked = false;
> > > /*
> > > * Prevent all access to pagetables with the exception of
> > > * gup_fast later handled by the ptep_clear_flush and the VM
> > > @@ -1213,20 +1225,20 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
> > > * mmap_lock.
> > > */
> > > mmap_write_lock(mm);
> >
> > Hmm you take an mmap... write lock here then don/t set *mmap_locked =
> > true... It's inconsistent and bug prone.
>
> yay we no longer need the gross lock tracking :)
<3
>
> >
> > I'm also seriously not a fan of switching between mmap read and write lock
> > here but keeping an *mmap_locked parameter here which is begging for a bug.
> >
> > In general though, you seem to always make sure in the (fairly hideous
> > honestly) error goto labels to have the mmap lock dropped, so what is the
> > point in keeping the *mmap_locked parameter updated throughou this anyway?
>
> Cleaned up the locking and its all much better now
Thanks!
>
> >
> > Are we ever exiting with it set? If not why not drop the parameter/helper
> > struct field and just have the caller understand that it's dropped on exit
> > (and document that).
>
> This...
>
> >
> > Since you're just dropping the lock on entry, why not have the caller do
> > that and document that you have to enter unlocked anyway?
>
>
> + moving one piece of code up into the parent (the part I was missing
> conceptually) solved all this. Thanks!
Thanks!
>
> >
> >
> > > - result = hugepage_vma_revalidate(mm, address, true, &vma, cc,
> > > - HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> > > + result = hugepage_vma_revalidate(mm, pmd_address, true, &vma, cc, order);
> > > if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
> > > goto out_up_write;
> > > /* check if the pmd is still valid */
> > > vma_start_write(vma);
> > > - result = check_pmd_still_valid(mm, address, pmd);
> > > + result = check_pmd_still_valid(mm, pmd_address, pmd);
> > > if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
> > > goto out_up_write;
> > >
> > > anon_vma_lock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> > > + anon_vma_locked = true;
> >
> > Again with a helper struct you can abstract this and avoid more noise.
> >
> > E.g. scan_anon_vma_lock_write(scan);
> >
> > >
> > > - mmu_notifier_range_init(&range, MMU_NOTIFY_CLEAR, 0, mm, address,
> > > - address + HPAGE_PMD_SIZE);
> > > + mmu_notifier_range_init(&range, MMU_NOTIFY_CLEAR, 0, mm, start_addr,
> > > + start_addr + (PAGE_SIZE << order));
> >
> > I hate this open-coded 'start_addr + (PAGE_SIZE << order)' construct.
> >
> > If you use a helper struct (theme here :) you could have a macro that
> > generates it set an end param to this.
>
> Ill probably just do a variable with map_size or something. I dont
> think we need a helper for this.
Ack will see how it looks in next respin :)
>
> >
> >
> > > mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start(&range);
> > >
> > > pmd_ptl = pmd_lock(mm, pmd); /* probably unnecessary */
> > > @@ -1238,24 +1250,21 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
> > > * Parallel GUP-fast is fine since GUP-fast will back off when
> > > * it detects PMD is changed.
> > > */
> > > - _pmd = pmdp_collapse_flush(vma, address, pmd);
> > > + _pmd = pmdp_collapse_flush(vma, pmd_address, pmd);
> > > spin_unlock(pmd_ptl);
> > > mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end(&range);
> > > tlb_remove_table_sync_one();
> > >
> > > - pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, &_pmd, address, &pte_ptl);
> > > + pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, &_pmd, start_addr, &pte_ptl);
> > > if (pte) {
> > > - result = __collapse_huge_page_isolate(vma, address, pte, cc,
> > > - HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
> > > - &compound_pagelist);
> > > + result = __collapse_huge_page_isolate(vma, start_addr, pte, cc,
> > > + order, &compound_pagelist);
> >
> > Will this work correctly with the non-PMD aligned start_addr?
>
> Yes we generalize all the other functions in the previous patch if
> that is what you are asking.
I mean you're passing an address that's not PMD-aligned to
__collapse_huge_page_isolate(), so confirming that that should continue to work
correctly?
>
> >
> > > spin_unlock(pte_ptl);
> > > } else {
> > > result = SCAN_NO_PTE_TABLE;
> > > }
> > >
> > > if (unlikely(result != SCAN_SUCCEED)) {
> > > - if (pte)
> > > - pte_unmap(pte);
> > > spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
> > > BUG_ON(!pmd_none(*pmd));
> >
> > Can we downgrade to WARN_ON_ONCE() as we pass by any BUG_ON()'s please?
> > Since we're churning here anyway it's worth doing :)
>
> ack.
Thanks!
>
> >
> > > /*
> > > @@ -1265,21 +1274,21 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
> > > */
> > > pmd_populate(mm, pmd, pmd_pgtable(_pmd));
> > > spin_unlock(pmd_ptl);
> > > - anon_vma_unlock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> > > goto out_up_write;
> > > }
> > >
> > > /*
> > > - * All pages are isolated and locked so anon_vma rmap
> > > - * can't run anymore.
> > > + * For PMD collapse all pages are isolated and locked so anon_vma
> > > + * rmap can't run anymore. For mTHP collapse we must hold the lock
> >
> > This is really unclear. What does 'can't run anymore' mean? Why must we
> > hold the lock for mTHP?
>
> In the PMD case we have isolated all the pages in the PMD, so no
> changes can occur, and we don't need to hold the lock. in the mTHP
> case, the PMD is only partially isolated, so if we drop the lock,
> changes can occur to the rest of the PMD. This was based on a bug
> found by Hugh https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/7a81339c-f9e5-a718-fa7f-6e3fb134dca5@google.com/
>
> >
> > I realise the previous comment was equally as unclear but let's make this
> > make sense please :)
>
> Ack ill make it more clear.
Thanks!
>
> >
> > > */
> > > - anon_vma_unlock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> > > + if (is_pmd_order(order)) {
> > > + anon_vma_unlock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> > > + anon_vma_locked = false;
> > > + }
> > >
> > > result = __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte, folio, pmd, _pmd,
> > > - vma, address, pte_ptl,
> > > - HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
> > > - &compound_pagelist);
> > > - pte_unmap(pte);
> > > + vma, start_addr, pte_ptl,
> > > + order, &compound_pagelist);
> > > if (unlikely(result != SCAN_SUCCEED))
> > > goto out_up_write;
> > >
> > > @@ -1289,20 +1298,34 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
> > > * write.
> > > */
> > > __folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
> > > - pgtable = pmd_pgtable(_pmd);
> > > + if (is_pmd_order(order)) { /* PMD collapse */
> >
> > At this point we still hold the pte lock, is that intended? Are we sure
> > there won't be any issues leaving it held during the operations that now
> > happen before you release it?
>
> I will verify before posting, but nothing has shown up in all my
> testing (not that doesn't mean it's okay).
OK good!
>
> >
> > > + pgtable = pmd_pgtable(_pmd);
> > >
> > > - spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
> > > - BUG_ON(!pmd_none(*pmd));
> > > - pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(mm, pmd, pgtable);
> > > - map_anon_folio_pmd_nopf(folio, pmd, vma, address);
> > > + spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
> > > + WARN_ON_ONCE(!pmd_none(*pmd));
> > > + pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(mm, pmd, pgtable);
> > > + map_anon_folio_pmd_nopf(folio, pmd, vma, pmd_address);
> >
> > If we're PMD order start_addr == pmd_address right?
>
> Correct. If you're asking why we don't uniformly use `start_addr`
> across the board, it's because using the PMD variable seemed clearer
> for PMD-related functions. Let me know which you prefer.
I think we are probably ok with this as-is.
>
> >
> > > + } else { /* mTHP collapse */
> > > + spin_lock(pmd_ptl);
> > > + WARN_ON_ONCE(!pmd_none(*pmd));
> >
> > You duplicate both of these lines in both branches, pull them out?
>
> Ill give that a shot.
Thanks!
>
> >
> > > + map_anon_folio_pte_nopf(folio, pte, vma, start_addr, /*uffd_wp=*/ false);
> > > + smp_wmb(); /* make PTEs visible before PMD. See pmd_install() */
> >
> > It'd be much nicer to call pmd_install() :)
>
> I don't think we can do that easily.
Ack
>
> >
> > Or maybe even to separate out the unlocked bit from pmd_install(), put that
> > in e.g. __pmd_install(), then use that after lock acquired?
>
> Can we please save all this for later? It's rather trivial; and last
> time I made a cosmetic change I broke something that i had spent over
> a year testing and verifying.
OK we can leave that for later then :>)
Really I should have insisted on some tech debt paydown on this code before
these changes, but I want this series landed in the 7.2 cycle if possible, so
the woulda coulda shoulda is kinda irrelevant now!
BTW my bandwidth for review in 7.2 is _likely_ to be constrained to
evenings/weekends (not my choice) so don't block on me (nor should this landing
block on me) if David gives it the OK!
>
> >
> > > + pmd_populate(mm, pmd, pmd_pgtable(_pmd));
> > > + }
> > > spin_unlock(pmd_ptl);
> > >
> > > folio = NULL;
> >
> > Not your code but... why? I guess to avoid the folio_put() below but
> > gross. Anyway this function needs refactoring, can be a follow up.
>
> ack
Yup obviously can be delayed!
>
> >
> > >
> > > result = SCAN_SUCCEED;
> > > out_up_write:
> > > + if (anon_vma_locked)
> > > + anon_vma_unlock_write(vma->anon_vma);
> > > + if (pte)
> > > + pte_unmap(pte);
> >
> > Again can be helped with helper struct :)
> >
> > > mmap_write_unlock(mm);
> > > + *mmap_locked = false;
> >
> > And this... I also hate the break from if (*mmap_locked) ... etc.
> >
> > > out_nolock:
> > > + WARN_ON_ONCE(*mmap_locked);
> >
> > Should be a VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() if we keep it.
>
> ack to the above. I will try cleaning up the locking.
Thanks
>
> >
> > > if (folio)
> > > folio_put(folio);
> > > trace_mm_collapse_huge_page(mm, result == SCAN_SUCCEED, result);
> > > @@ -1483,9 +1506,8 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_scan_pmd(struct mm_struct *mm,
> > > pte_unmap_unlock(pte, ptl);
> > > if (result == SCAN_SUCCEED) {
> > > result = collapse_huge_page(mm, start_addr, referenced,
> > > - unmapped, cc);
> > > - /* collapse_huge_page will return with the mmap_lock released */
> >
> > Hm except this is true :) We also should probably just unlock before
> > entering as mentioned before.
>
> Ack will keep that in mind as part of above
Thanks!
>
> >
> > > - *mmap_locked = false;
> > > + unmapped, cc, mmap_locked,
> > > + HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> > > }
> > > out:
> > > trace_mm_khugepaged_scan_pmd(mm, folio, referenced,
> > > --
> > > 2.53.0
> > >
> >
> > Cheers, Lorenzo
>
> Thank you for the review :)
No problem :)
>
> Cheers,
> -- Nico
>
> >
>
Cheers, Lorenzo
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2026-02-26 3:17 [PATCH mm-unstable v15 00/13] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-02-26 3:22 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 01/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for " Nico Pache
2026-03-12 20:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-26 3:23 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 02/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-03-12 20:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-26 3:23 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 03/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-03-12 20:32 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-12 20:36 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-12 20:56 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-08 19:48 ` Nico Pache
2026-04-09 8:14 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09 16:17 ` Nico Pache
2026-04-09 18:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-26 3:24 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 04/13] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_max_ptes_none helper function Nico Pache
2026-02-26 3:24 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 05/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-03-17 16:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-17 17:16 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-04-16 4:14 ` Nico Pache
2026-04-16 6:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-02-26 3:24 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 06/13] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-03-12 21:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 1:38 ` Nico Pache
2026-04-13 7:37 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-26 3:25 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 07/13] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-03-12 21:03 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 17:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-04-13 2:48 ` Nico Pache
2026-04-16 7:21 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-02-26 3:25 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 08/13] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-03-12 21:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-26 3:25 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 09/13] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-03-12 21:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 17:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-02-26 3:26 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 10/13] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-03-12 21:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 21:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-02-26 3:26 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 11/13] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-02-26 16:26 ` Usama Arif
2026-02-26 20:47 ` Nico Pache
2026-03-12 21:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 10:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 18:59 ` Nico Pache
2026-03-18 19:48 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-19 15:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-02-26 3:26 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 12/13] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-02-26 15:53 ` Usama Arif
2026-03-12 21:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 10:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 19:02 ` Nico Pache
2026-03-17 11:36 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-18 19:07 ` Nico Pache
2026-02-26 3:27 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v15 13/13] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-03-17 11:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-18 19:08 ` Nico Pache
2026-03-18 19:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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