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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: David CARLIER <devnexen@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm/userfaultfd: detect VMA replacement after copy retry in mfill_copy_folio_retry()
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 14:20:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adeLb5G3PgE_zuct@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac5vVFXgyqODXaab@x1.local>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 09:29:56AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> Hi, Mike,
> 
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 07:02:40AM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 03:22:03PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > >
> > > The other thing is I just noticed the err code was changed to -EINVAL for
> > > snapshot changed cases, sorry I didn't follow previously as closely on the
> > > discussion.  I think it should be -EAGAIN.  It's because the userapp can't
> > > resolve -EINVAL failures and app will crash.  In a VMA change use case, we
> > > should return -EAGAIN to imply the app to retry, rather than crashing.
> > 
> > No. The return value should express that the VMA is invalid. -EINVAL could
> > work, but looking now at the manual -ENOENT would be even better:
> > 
> >        ENOENT (since Linux 4.11)
> >               The faulting process has changed its virtual memory layout
> >               simultaneously with an outstanding UFFDIO_COPY operation.
> 
> The VMA changed, but it doesn't mean the UFFDIO_COPY becomes illegal, am I
> right?

I don't think that "munmap + mmap + userfault_register"
during an outstanding UFFDIO_COPY to the same range is, hmm, the smartest
thing to do, and I think aborting the outstanding UFFDIO_COPY in such case
is better than allowing it to continue.
 
> For example, I wonder if it's possible someone runs soft-dirty concurrently
> with userfaultfd, we shouldn't fail the userapp if there's a concurrent
> thread collecting dirty information, which IIUC can cause VMA flag changes,
> and should be benign, and I think there can be other things causing the
> interruption too.

Right, we shouldn't fail if some of the VMA flags changed, but we are
talking about of complete change of the mapping, with potentially
completely different backing store.
 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Peter Xu

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-31 13:41 David Carlier
2026-04-01  3:01 ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-01  7:49   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-01  8:06     ` David CARLIER
2026-04-01 15:23       ` Peter Xu
2026-04-01 18:34         ` David CARLIER
2026-04-01 19:22           ` Peter Xu
2026-04-01 20:05             ` David CARLIER
2026-04-02  4:02             ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-02  5:59               ` David CARLIER
2026-04-02 13:29               ` Peter Xu
2026-04-09 11:20                 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2026-04-02  3:58       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-02 13:42         ` Peter Xu
2026-04-09 11:31           ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-07 10:17     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)

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