From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
To: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Christoph Lameter" <cl@gentwo.org>,
"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Harry Yoo" <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/12] rust: xarray: add `contains_index` method
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2026 12:49:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aczcvsaftsh3oj4e7xvm2e2m6roytdy4u6zmh66p7fpzr3npvl@ft6cmvlogsvm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87seb6t9t7.fsf@kernel.org>
* Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> [260212 07:40]:
> "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 11:52 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
> >>
> >> > As far as I understand, this is a borrow checker limitation. It is easy
> >> > for us to look at this code and decide that the borrow on line 51 will
> >> > never alias with the borrow on line 49.
> >>
> >> I did a bit of googling, and this seems to be a well known issue with
> >> the current implementation of lifetime analysis in the rust compiler.
> >> Apparently this kind of code used to be OK [1] but the Rust devs decided
> >> to remove the code that allowed this, because it was causing excessive
> >> compilation times [2]. The upside is that this is solved by the new
> >> lifetime analysis implementation called "Polonius" and it is the
> >> intention to replace the existing implementation with Polonius at some
> >> point [3].
> >
> > I believe the standard fix for this issue is to provide an entry api
> > similar to HashMap::entry(). See the rbtree for an example, as it
> > already provides such API.
Alice, can you provide a link to the rbtree code please?
>
> The example above [1] is using the BTreeMap entry API to produce the
> issue. Are the BTreeMap and HashMap entry APIs significantly different,
> or is there something else I missed?
From what I can find, the HashMap is different specifically for this
reason.
This is where my question about get_or_insert() came from, the HashSet
has this workaround, maybe?
AFAICT, the hash workaround is done in the Entry code that takes a
different reference(?) based on the variant (enum?) returned [1].
Or maybe it's about the way branches are evaluated by the checker? Are
these different
But I'm really fumbling around this while I learn what you are all
doing! Thanks for all the education on this stuff, it's helping me
understand where we are headed. Hopefully I help along the way this
time.
Thanks,
Liam
[1]. https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/collections/hash_map/enum.Entry.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-12 17:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-09 14:38 [PATCH v3 00/12] rust: xarray: add entry API with preloading Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] rust: xarray: minor formatting fixes Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:44 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-10 17:44 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 18:30 ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] rust: xarray: add debug format for `StoreError` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:45 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-10 16:55 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 17:44 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] rust: xarray: add `contains_index` method Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:46 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-10 16:56 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-11 7:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-11 18:24 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 17:52 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 7:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-11 18:21 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-12 10:15 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 10:52 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 11:19 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-12 12:39 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 17:49 ` Liam R. Howlett [this message]
2026-02-13 8:15 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-13 8:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-12 11:27 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-12 12:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-12 13:34 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] rust: xarray: add `XArrayState` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:48 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-11 7:42 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:57 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] rust: xarray: use `xas_load` instead of `xa_load` in `Guard::load` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 18:16 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-10 19:53 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 20:59 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-10 21:22 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-10 21:34 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 14:32 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 18:00 ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-11 18:19 ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-11 18:24 ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-11 18:55 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-02-11 19:45 ` Boqun Feng
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] rust: xarray: simplify `Guard::load` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] rust: xarray: add `find_next` and `find_next_mut` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] rust: xarray: add entry API Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] rust: mm: add abstractions for allocating from a `sheaf` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] rust: mm: sheaf: allow use of C initialized static caches Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] xarray, radix-tree: enable sheaf support for kmem_cache Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-10 16:49 ` Daniel Gomez
2026-02-11 7:45 ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-02-09 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] rust: xarray: add preload API Andreas Hindborg
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