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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Tal Zussman <tz2294@columbia.edu>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>,
	Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
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	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	wangzicheng <wangzicheng@honor.com>,
	"T . J . Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Towards Unified and Extensible Memory Reclaim (reclaim_ext)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 14:43:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acbd5lKEh8xa1IQk@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6f40c513-af3e-45b6-9000-c61494a23bd3@columbia.edu>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 03:12:16PM -0400, Tal Zussman wrote:
> 
> It's been well-known in the academic realm for a while that there isn't
> really a "one-size-fits-all" policy that works *best* for all workloads.
> Yes, you can make a general policy that works *well*, but if you really care
> about a workload's performance and want to squeeze out the last 10-20% (or
> more) of performance, you need to be able to (1) experiment and (2) take
> advantage of application-level insights. Being able to extend reclaim (in
> our case with eBPF) enables that.
>

This just makes me think going all the way to reclaim_ext and re-writing
MGLRU as an eBPF extension in an effort to simplify the code/maintenance
and keep what works working is the least-worst option.

But this is a naive take, i'm sure making that interface stable would be
even worse than just maintaining both LRU/MGLRU.

~Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-27 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-25 21:06 Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26  0:10 ` T.J. Mercier
2026-03-26  2:05 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-26  7:03   ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-26  8:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 12:37       ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 13:13         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:42           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-26 13:45             ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 16:02         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 20:02       ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-26 20:30         ` Gregory Price
2026-03-26 20:47           ` Axel Rasmussen
2026-03-27  3:43             ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-27 19:12               ` Tal Zussman
2026-03-27 19:43                 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-03-27  8:07         ` [Lsf-pc] " Vlastimil Babka
2026-03-27  9:29           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 12:06   ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 12:31     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:17       ` Kairui Song
2026-03-26 13:26         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 13:21   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26  7:12 ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-26 13:44   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26 15:24     ` Michal Hocko
2026-03-26 18:21       ` Shakeel Butt
2026-03-26  7:18 ` wangzicheng
2026-03-26 11:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 15:24   ` Gregory Price
2026-03-26 15:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-26 16:32       ` Gregory Price
2026-03-26 16:40         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 19:53       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-04-07 11:36         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-07 16:56           ` Gregory Price
2026-04-07 17:30             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-07 17:52               ` Johannes Weiner
2026-04-07 18:37               ` Gregory Price
2026-04-08  6:48                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-03-26 18:49   ` Shakeel Butt

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