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From: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
To: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"Bodeddula, Balasubramaniam" <bodeddub@amazon.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	james.morse@arm.com, Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	LAK <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Xiongchun duan <duanxiongchun@bytedance.com>,
	Fam Zheng <fam.zheng@bytedance.com>,
	Muchun Song <smuchun@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] arm64: mm: hugetlb: Enable HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP for arm64
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 09:04:53 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac9d171b-9995-13a8-8359-12291c835bec@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZfGtX5NXudeAsYKU8mDtPn0+bw_3FhCsAW0PMBTqTTkp-fQQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 4/4/22 17:31, Muchun Song wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:25 PM Anshuman Khandual
> <anshuman.khandual@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Muchun,
>>
>> On 3/31/22 12:26, Muchun Song wrote:
>>> The feature of minimizing overhead of struct page associated with each
>>> HugeTLB page aims to free its vmemmap pages (used as struct page) to
>>> save memory, where is ~14GB/16GB per 1TB HugeTLB pages (2MB/1GB type).
>>
>> Enabling this feature saves us around 1.4/1.6 % memory but looking from
>> other way around, unavailability of vmemmap backing pages (~1.4GB) when
>> freeing up a corresponding HugeTLB page, could prevent ~1TB memory from
>> being used as normal page form (requiring their own struct pages), thus
>> forcing the HugeTLB page to remain as such ? Is not this problematic ?
>>
>> These additional 1TB memory in normal pages, from a HugeTLB dissolution
>> could have eased the system's memory pressure without this feature being
>> enabled.
> 
> You are right. If the system is already under heavy memory pressure, it could
> prevent the user from freeing HugeTLB pages to the buddy allocator. If the
> HugeTLB page are allocated from non-movable zone, this scenario may be
> not problematic since once a HugeTLB page is freed, then the system will

But how can even the first HugeTLB page be freed without vmemmmap which is
throttled due to lack of sufficient memory ?

> have memory to be allocated to be used as vmemmap pages, subsequent
> freeing of HugeTLB pages may be getting easier.  However, if the HUgeTLB
> pages are allocated from the movable zone, then the thing becomes terrible,
> which is documented in Documentation/admin-guide/mm/memory-hotplug.rst.
> 
> So there is a cmdline "hugetlb_free_vmemmap" to control if enabling this
> feature.  The user should enable/disable this depending on their workload.

Should there also be a sysfs interface for this knob as well ? Perhaps the
system usage might change on the way, without requiring a reboot.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-05  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-31  6:56 [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: hugetlb_vmemmap: introduce ARCH_WANT_HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP Muchun Song
2022-03-31  6:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] arm64: mm: hugetlb: Enable HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP for arm64 Muchun Song
2022-03-31 22:31   ` Barry Song
2022-04-04  9:26   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-04 12:01     ` Muchun Song
2022-04-05  3:34       ` Anshuman Khandual [this message]
2022-04-05  3:49         ` Muchun Song
2022-04-05  4:45   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-05  8:38     ` Muchun Song
2022-04-11  9:17       ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-11 10:40         ` Muchun Song
2022-04-11 10:12   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-11 11:55     ` Muchun Song
2022-04-13 10:33   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-13 14:59     ` Muchun Song
2022-03-31  8:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: hugetlb_vmemmap: introduce ARCH_WANT_HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP David Hildenbrand
2022-03-31  8:48   ` Muchun Song
2022-03-31  8:50     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-31  8:53       ` Muchun Song
2022-03-31 22:19 ` Barry Song
2022-04-04  9:05 ` Anshuman Khandual

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