From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
dave.jiang@intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
osalvador@suse.de
Cc: dan.j.williams@intel.com, ljs@kernel.org,
Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org,
surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
nvdimm@lists.linux.dev, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] dax/kmem: atomic whole-device hotplug via sysfs
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 16:53:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac9455ad-21cd-49e9-a6fb-9f25175b5681@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c08c0a8-9415-4f30-bfa9-db39318fa7d3@kernel.org>
On 4/13/26 16:49, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 3/21/26 16:03, Gregory Price wrote:
>> The dax kmem driver currently onlines memory during probe using the
>> system default policy, with no way to control or query the region state
>> at runtime - other than by inspecting the state of individual blocks.
>>
>> Offlining and removing an entire region requires operating on individual
>> memory blocks, creating race conditions where external entities can
>> interfere between the offline and remove steps.
>>
>> The problem was discussed specifically in the LPC2025 device memory
>> sessions - https://lpc.events/event/19/contributions/2016/ - where
>> it was discussed how the non-atomic interface for dax hotplug is causing
>> issues in some distributions which have competing userland controllers
>> that interfere with each other.
>>
>> This series adds a sysfs "hotplug" attribute for atomic whole-device
>> hotplug control, along with the mm and dax plumbing to support it.
>>
>> The first five patches prepare the mm and dax layers:
>>
>> 1. Consolidate memory-tier type deduplication into mt_get_memory_type(),
>> removing redundant per-driver infrastructure.
>> 2. Add a memory_block_align_range() helper for hotplug range alignment.
>> 3-5. Thread an explicit online_type through the memory hotplug and dax
>> paths, allowing drivers to specify a preferred auto-online policy
>> (ZONE_NORMAL vs ZONE_MOVABLE) instead of being forced to the
>> system default.
>>
>> The last three patches build the dax/kmem feature:
>>
>> 6. Plumb online_type through the dax device creation path.
>> 7. Extract hotplug/hotremove into helper functions to separate resource
>> lifecycle from memory onlining.
>> 8. Add the "hotplug" sysfs attribute supporting three states:
>> - "unplug": memory blocks removed
>> - "online": online as normal system RAM
>> - "online_movable": online in ZONE_MOVABLE
>>
>> Transitions are atomic across all ranges in the device. Backward
>> compatibility is preserved: probe still auto-onlines when the configured
>> policy matches the system default.
>>
>> Specific notes for maintainers:
>>
>> I downgraded a BUG() to a WARN() when unbind is called while the dax
>> device is not un an UNPLUGGED state. This is because the old pattern of
>> toggling individual memory blocks is still used by userland tools, and
>> will disconnect the `hotplug` value from the actual state of the overall
>> memory region.
>>
>> Unless we move to deprecate per-block controls, we should just WARN()
>> instead of BUG() as an indicator that userland tools need to be updated
>> to use the new pattern (the old pattern is subject to race conditions).
>>
>> The first two commits are semi-unrelated cleanups that conflict with the
>> changes made in the refactoring commits. (memory-tier dedup and align_range
>> helper). These are intended to be used for future cxl region extensions,
>> but if you prefer them to be dropped or submitted separately let me
>> know.
>>
>> This is technically v3, but the patch line has diverged considerably and
>> I've reworked the cover letter, apologies for prior obtuseness
>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260114235022.3437787-1-gourry@gourry.net/
>
>
> Hi Gregory,
>
> against which branch / base commit is this series?
>
b4 am --guess-base
Was helpful :)
--
Cheers,
David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-13 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-21 15:03 Gregory Price
2026-03-21 15:03 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm/memory-tiers: consolidate memory type dedup into mt_get_memory_type() Gregory Price
2026-04-13 15:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-21 15:03 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm/memory: add memory_block_align_range() helper Gregory Price
2026-04-13 15:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-21 15:03 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm/memory_hotplug: pass online_type to online_memory_block() via arg Gregory Price
2026-03-21 15:04 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm/memory_hotplug: export mhp_get_default_online_type Gregory Price
2026-04-13 15:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-21 15:04 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm/memory_hotplug: add __add_memory_driver_managed() with online_type arg Gregory Price
2026-04-13 15:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-21 15:04 ` [PATCH 6/8] dax: plumb hotplug online_type through dax Gregory Price
2026-04-13 15:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-21 15:04 ` [PATCH 7/8] dax/kmem: extract hotplug/hotremove helper functions Gregory Price
2026-03-21 15:04 ` [PATCH 8/8] dax/kmem: add sysfs interface for atomic whole-device hotplug Gregory Price
2026-03-21 17:40 ` [PATCH 0/8] dax/kmem: atomic whole-device hotplug via sysfs Andrew Morton
2026-03-21 20:26 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-13 15:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 14:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 14:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
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