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dkim=pass header.d=deltatee.com header.s=20200525 header.b=Smqa+CJc; spf=pass (imf09.hostedemail.com: domain of logang@deltatee.com designates 204.191.154.188 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=logang@deltatee.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=deltatee.com X-HE-Tag: 1633131282-10504 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On 2021-10-01 4:46 p.m., Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 04:22:28PM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote: > >>> It would close this issue, however synchronize_rcu() is very slow >>> (think > 1second) in some cases and thus cannot be inserted here. >> >> It shouldn't be *that* slow, at least not the vast majority of the >> time... it seems a bit unreasonable that a CPU wouldn't schedule for >> more than a second. > > I've seen bug reports on exactly this, it is well known. Loaded > big multi-cpu systems have high delays here, for whatever reason. > >> But these aren't fast paths and synchronize_rcu() already gets >> called in the unbind path for p2pdma a of couple times. I'm sure it >> would also be fine to slow down the vma_close() path as well. > > vma_close is done in a loop destroying vma's and if each synchronize > costs > 1s it can take forever to close a process. We had to kill a > similar use of synchronize_rcu in RDMA because users were complaining > of > 40s process exit times. Ah, fair. This adds a bit of complexity, but we could do a call_rcu() in vma_close to do the page frees. Logan