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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/ksm: update stale comment in write_protect_page()
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 21:15:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab41f458-eb0f-5edb-ccab-643bf00d5110@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHbLzkoMMWAgai2bvgu7y5EAcKOhhx3gK+OA4v2+kOHBW4cauw@mail.gmail.com>

On 31.08.22 21:08, Yang Shi wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:29 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 31.08.22 19:55, Yang Shi wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 1:30 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The comment is stale, because a TLB flush is no longer sufficient and
>>>> required to synchronize against concurrent GUP-fast. This used to be true
>>>> in the past, whereby a TLB flush would have implied an IPI on architectures
>>>> that support GUP-fast, resulting in GUP-fast that disables local interrupts
>>>> from completing before completing the flush.
>>>
>>> Hmm... it seems there might be problem for THP collapse IIUC. THP
>>> collapse clears and flushes pmd before doing anything on pte and
>>> relies on interrupt disable of fast GUP to serialize against fast GUP.
>>> But if TLB flush is no longer sufficient, then we may run into the
>>> below race IIUC:
>>>
>>>          CPU A                                                CPU B
>>> THP collapse                                             fast GUP
>>>
>>> gup_pmd_range() <-- see valid pmd
>>>
>>> gup_pte_range() <-- work on pte
>>> clear pmd and flush TLB
>>> __collapse_huge_page_isolate()
>>>     isolate page <-- before GUP bump refcount
>>>
>>>    pin the page
>>> __collapse_huge_page_copy()
>>>     copy data to huge page
>>>     clear pte (don't flush TLB)
>>> Install huge pmd for huge page
>>>
>>> return the obsolete page
>>
>> Hm, the is_refcount_suitable() check runs while the PTE hasn't been
>> cleared yet. And we don't check if the PMD changed once we're in
>> gup_pte_range().
> 
> Yes
> 
>>
>> The comment most certainly should be stale as well -- unless there is
>> some kind of an implicit IPI broadcast being done.
>>
>> 2667f50e8b81 mentions: "The RCU page table free logic coupled with an
>> IPI broadcast on THP split (which is a rare event), allows one to
>> protect a page table walker by merely disabling the interrupts during
>> the walk."
>>
>> I'm not able to quickly locate that IPI broadcast -- maybe there is one
>> being done here (in collapse) as well?
> 
> The TLB flush may call IPI. I'm supposed it is arch dependent, right?
> Some do use IPI, some may not.

Right, and the whole idea of the RCU GUP-fast was to support
architectures that don't do it. x86-64 does it. IIRC, powerpc doesn't do
it -- but maybe it does so for PMDs?

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-31  8:30 David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 17:55 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 18:29   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:08     ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 19:15       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-08-31 19:33         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:34         ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 19:36           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-31 19:43             ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 20:59               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-31 21:42                 ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 22:18               ` Yang Shi
2022-09-01  6:58                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-01 17:40                   ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 18:52   ` Peter Xu
2022-08-31 20:38     ` Yang Shi
2022-08-31 21:09       ` Peter Xu
2022-08-31 21:44         ` Yang Shi

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