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From: Chris Arges <carges@cloudflare.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, william.kucharski@oracle.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@cloudflare.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/filemap: handle large folio split race in page cache lookups
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2026 14:11:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aas06mfCrJuzZd0-@20HS2G4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aasAo8qRCV9XSuax@casper.infradead.org>

On 2026-03-06 16:28:19, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 02:13:26PM +0000, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2026 at 07:24:38PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > folio_split() needs to be sure that it's the only one holding a reference
> > > to the folio.  To that end, it calculates the expected refcount of the
> > > folio, and freezes it (sets the refcount to 0 if the refcount is the
> > > expected value).  Once filemap_get_entry() has incremented the refcount,
> > > freezing will fail.
> > > 
> > > But of course, we can race.  filemap_get_entry() can load a folio first,
> > > the entire folio_split can happen, then it calls folio_try_get() and
> > > succeeds, but it no longer covers the index we were looking for.  That's
> > > what the xas_reload() is trying to prevent -- if the index is for a
> > > folio which has changed, then the xas_reload() should come back with a
> > > different folio and we goto repeat.
> > > 
> > > So how did we get through this with a reference to the wrong folio?
> > 
> > What would xas_reload() return if we raced with split and index pointed
> > to a tail page before the split?
> > 
> > Wouldn't it return the folio that was a head and check will pass?
> 
> It's not supposed to return the head in this case.  But, check the code:
> 
>         if (!node)
>                 return xa_head(xas->xa);
>         if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_XARRAY_MULTI)) {
>                 offset = (xas->xa_index >> node->shift) & XA_CHUNK_MASK;
>                 entry = xa_entry(xas->xa, node, offset);
>                 if (!xa_is_sibling(entry))
>                         return entry;
>                 offset = xa_to_sibling(entry);
>         }
>         return xa_entry(xas->xa, node, offset);
> 
> (obviously CONFIG_XARRAY_MULTI is enabled)
>
Yes we have this CONFIG enabled.

Also FWIW, happy to run some additional experiments or more debugging. We _can_
reproduce this, as a machine hits this about every day on a sample of ~128
machines. We also do get crashdumps so we can poke around there as needed.

I was going to deploy this patch onto a subset of machines, but reading through
this thread I'm a bit concerned if a retry doesn't actually fix the problem,
then we will just loop on this condition and hang.

--chris

> !node is almost certainly not true -- that's only the case if there's a
> single entry at offset 0, and we're talking about a situation where we
> have a large folio.
> 
> I think we have two cases to consider; one where we've allocated a new
> node because we split an entry from order >=6 to order <6, and one where
> we just split an entry that stays at the same level in the tree.
> 
> So let's say we're looking up an entry at index 1499 and first we got
> a folio that is at index 1024 order 9.  So first, let's look at what
> happens if it's split into two order-8 folios.  We get a reference on the
> first one, then we calculate offset as ((1499 >> 6) & 63) which is 23.
> Unless folio splitting is buggy, the original folio is in slot 16 and
> has sibling entries in 17,18,19 and the new folio is in slot 20 and has
> sibling entries in 21,22,23.  So we should find a sibling entry in slot
> 23 that points to 20, then return the new folio in slot 20 which would
> mismatch the old folio that we got a refcount on.
> 
> Then let's consider what happens if we split the index at 1499 into an
> order-0 folio.  folio split allocated a new node and put it at offset 23
> (and populated the new node, but we don't need to be concerned with that
> here).  This time the lookup finds the new node and actually returns the
> node instead of a folio.  But that's OK, because we'ree just checking
> for pointer equality, and there's no way this node compares equal to
> any folio we found (not least because it has a low bit set to indicate
> this is a node and not a pointer).  So again the pointer equality check
> fails and we drop the speculative refcount we obtained and retry the loop.
> 
> Have I missed something?  Maybe a memory ordering problem?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-06 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-05 18:34 [PATCH RFC 0/1] fix for large folio split race in page cache Chris J Arges
2026-03-05 18:34 ` [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/filemap: handle large folio split race in page cache lookups Chris J Arges
2026-03-05 19:24   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-06 14:13     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-06 16:28       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-06 18:36         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-06 18:41           ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-06 20:20             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-06 20:11         ` Chris Arges [this message]
2026-03-06 20:21           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-06 20:58             ` Chris Arges

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